US Politics Thread 2021-24

[August]

Originally Posted by em2nought

We all know that for want of a more precise word, the democrats have "better" lawyers so why not use their own words against them.

I think it's genius. It puts every Democrat who voted for impeachment in the position of having to explain what is different when it's about their guy.

I think they may try to bring one final surprise witness, after Cohen, to point to where bad man orange hurt him.

Barring that it seems to me that the states entire case rests upon the believably of a convicted perjurer with a known hatred of trump who has been making money grinding an axe against him for several years now. It should be obvious to the jury that this guy will say anything to maximize that revenue flow.


As the Alabama AG attending the trial put it: "...the only thing the jury is going to be able to conclude is that while Michael Cohen made a career on monetizing his relationship with Donald Trump, his testimony in this case was designed to monetize his ability to get Donald Trump a conviction, and that is not going to play very well"

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Here's the 100K supporters on Jersey Beach.

Originally Posted by August

Reece you're a sucker if you believe anything that Budda claims about Trump. Especially when his own candidate doesn't even dare to hold rallies in order to prevent being embarrassed by the lack of interest.

Hmm, I know this from Newsweek, but, dang, if they ain't a-quoting Fox News...


Fox News Questions Donald Trump's Rally Size -

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-new-j...%20House%20bid.



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[vienna]

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[Otto Harkaman]

So the picture they always show is from a photo-op?

He says he had no physical intimacy with her?

She basically tried to blackmail him?

Is Micheal Cohen in fact an accomplice who tried to help her blackmail Trump?

[Otto Harkaman]

I just don't know how someone could become so obsessed, almost like he fell in love with Donald Trump and then when dumped he had to do everything to extract some revenge.

Look at his wife's face, hey Micheal there is the cost of your obsession

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

So the picture they always show is from a photo-op?

He says he had no physical intimacy with her?

She basically tried to blackmail him?

Is Micheal Cohen in fact an accomplice who tried to help her blackmail Trump?

It doesn't matter if they actually had sex, or not. The issue is there was money paid to her by Cohen to keep the story out of the news before the 2016 election on Trump's order, that was later reimbursed to Cohen, and nearly doubled to compensate for Cohen's tax burden and called a legal expense on Trump's books. You don't pay your lawyers taxes for them when paying their bills for legal services rendered therefore making the book entries falsified. It's not some rarely used law Trump broke, it's been used thousands of times in NY going after drug traffickers and others laundering money.

[Otto Harkaman]

Do they have an actual recording of Trump ordering Cohen to do this?

Is there any other collaborating witness to Cohen's testimony?

But we can say there is no evidence of Trump having physical intimacy with Stormy other than her testimony?

And I don't understand your expose into entry book fraud? If Trump paid Cohen so what? Did Cohen not pay taxes on it?

And that is conjecture that keeping that story out of the press helped Donald Trump. Maybe if the story would have aired it would have helped him even more because it seems as if this porn star was just trying to blackmail him.

Lets talk about his opponent in that election, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, whose compromised private email server allowed untold damage to National Security. Dropping the ball on the Benghazi attack, we had a United States Ambassador killed in the streets!

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

Do they have a actual recording of Trump ordering Cohen to do this?

Is there any other collaborating witness to Cohen's testimony?

But we can say there is no evidence of Trump having physical intimacy with Stormy other than her testimony?

And I don't understand your expose into entry book fraud? If Trump paid Cohen so what? Did Cohen not pay taxes on it?

And that is conjecture that keeping that story out of the press helped Donald Trump. Maybe if the story would have aired it would have helped him even more because it seems as if this porn star was just trying to blackmail him.

Lets talk about his opponent in that election, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, whose compromised private email server allowed untold damage to National Security. Dropping the ball on the Benghazi attack, we had a United States Ambassador killed in the streets!

Yes, there is evidence for all of it, and it's pretty damning, but it's too long to go into here. Phone records, text records, audio recordings, witness testimony, etc.

Trump tried to hide he paid her off by falsifying business records before the election, and right after the Access Hollywood recording went public. There are records of Trump saying it would harm his election if it went public and for Cohen to "take care of it". Falsifying business records is a crime and it's then tied to election interference by Trumps statements which are in evidence.

Hillary is not on trial and irrelevent.

[Otto Harkaman]

So what? There was no money laundering if any of this is true.

All the falsified documents were of Cohen's doing to conceal from his wife?

Yes Hillary matters because your premise is that withholding this supposed story of a porn star claiming she had sex with Trump would have affected the election, Obviously not. Hillary's husband while President had an intern give him a blow job in the oval office and she is still married to him! Her email server was exposed by Wiener exposing himself geez. Who cares about Trump

The whole thing seems to me that Cohen used Stormy's blackmail attempt to force a power move on (Blackmail) Trump to appoint him to some position in his cabinet.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

So what? There was no money laundering if any of this is true.

All the falsified documents were of Cohen's doing to conceal from his wife?

Yes Hillary matters because your premise is that withholding this supposed story of a porn star claiming she had sex with Trump would have affected the election, Obviously not. Hillary's husband while President had an intern give him a blow job in the oval office and she is still married to him! Her email server was exposed by Wiener exposing himself geez. Who cares about Trump

The whole thing seems to me that Cohen used Stormy's blackmail attempt to force a power move on (Blackmail) Trump to appoint him to some position in his cabinet.

I don't agree but we'll see when the verdict is reached. It shouldn't be more than about two weeks in coming.

Then there is this Friday where Trump is supposed to go to Baron's graduation after making a fuss about the mean judge who's allowing him to go. I bet he dodges that and goes fundraising in Minnesota.

Trump's whole blather about not being able to campaign falls flat since he's only in court about 60% of the whole time the trial's been going on.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Hillary is not on trial and irrelevent.

Can you imagine if Clinton appeared in the witness box? That sketch artist's days would surely be numbered.

[Rockstar]

This is gonna be good. I guess there’s only much Adderall and Mydayis in the world.
Really hope they concentrate on the good and bad of current foreign and domestic policy instead of the usual childish kook fringe drama and conspiracy theories like above

https://insiderpaper.com/topic/news/usa/

Biden proposes June and September election debates with Donald Trump, ditching the decades-old tradition of three fall meetings organized by the bipartisan Commission on Presidential Debates.

[Rockstar]

Inflation hits 20 percent under Biden, pushing small businesses to the brink

https://thehill.com/opinion/4663651-...-to-the-brink/

On Wednesday, the country hit a sad milestone: Inflation under President Biden hit 20 percent. The dollar’s value has plummeted under his watch. The Bureau of Labor Statistics also confirmed that the consumer price index is resurgent and growing faster than average wages. Combined with weak GDP growth, this data shows the U.S. economy is reentering stagflation.
Historic inflation is causing declining living standards and a cost-of-living crisis. Under Biden’s presidency, grocery prices have increased by nearly one-third and gas has risen by 50 percent. It feels like every daily convenience — from a turkey sandwich to some handyman help — has increased by 50 percent or more.

Yet Biden seems entirely out of touch with this reality. In a recent CNN interview, he responded to these inflation numbers by claiming, “They have the money to spend.” In reality, it now costs the average American family $12,000 more to maintain the same living standards as before President Biden took office.
Biden also tried to deflect from this consumer pain by claiming he inherited high inflation. Fact-check: Inflation was 1.4 percent when he took office.
The situation is especially bad for small businesses. “Customers that used to come in every week now come in every three weeks,” says Joe Germanotta, a New York restauranteur. This statement reflects what I’m hearing from small businesses nationwide. When people are faced with $20 for a burger or $10 for dry cleaning, they choose to eat and do laundry at home instead.
Small business economic woes are compounded by a credit crunch and crime. Resurgent inflation has forced the Federal Reserve to hold interest rates at 22-year highs, restricting access to capital entrepreneurs need to thrive. One-third of small businesses say increased crime is reducing their earnings.
Democrats’ regulatory and tax onslaught will only add more pressure. The Biden administration recently issued rules expanding overtime pay, banning noncompete contracts, mandating electric vehicle use and regulating internet access. The Corporate Transparency Act, which took effect this year, burdens every small business with annoying reporting requirements and the risk of jail time for noncompliance.
Biden recently promised that if he’s reelected, he will dramatically raise taxes on small businesses by letting the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act expire in 2025 as scheduled. That means small businesses would face a 20 percent tax hike, the end of bonus depreciation, and higher tax brackets on their earnings.

Two-thirds of respondents to JCN’s SBIQ nationwide poll of small business owners already say current economic conditions could force them to close. Massive tax hikes like these will push many past the brink.
Biden has spent a half-century in government and doesn’t know what it’s like to run a business. Most Democrats are the same, never signing the front of a paycheck. They treat small businesses as if they were a state of nature, like the Great Lakes or Rocky Mountains.
In reality, small businesses need the right policy environment to thrive — and even survive. What Democrats still can’t do is pass a mandate to stop small businesses from simply closing their doors in the face of these threats and choosing to do something less productive. At least not yet.

[August]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Inflation hits 20 percent under Biden, pushing small businesses to the brink

Just the other day Biden was claiming that inflation was 9% when he took office. The truth is that it was at less than 2% and it didn't hit 9% until he was halfway through his (hopefully only) term.

[mapuc]

Can you solely blame Biden for your high inflation ?

Heck it's not only the States who are fighting high inflation.

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