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03-05-20, 06:09 PM | #752 | |
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03-05-20, 06:24 PM | #753 | |
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Quarantining people does not care for how long contact is ago. Quarantining people as early as possible is the priority in any case. If you want to know whether you got hit by somebody or not, self-quarantine yourself at least 14 days, better longer, and then you see what happens - or try to get tested. which seems to be difficult in Germany, we learn over here. Labs already work at their limits. Consider also another risk. The virus currently is expected to survive on smooth surfaces for up to nine days, which is quite long for a virus, I think, many virusses can live just hours outside the body. Cold temperature and high air moisture help it further to survive outside a physiological environment. Clean things with desinfectant that have been touched and used by an infected person, or a "candidate".
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03-05-20, 07:17 PM | #754 |
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03-05-20, 08:27 PM | #755 | ||
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“Only 29% report that there is a plan in place to isolate a patient with a possible novel coronavirus infection. 23% report they don't know if there is a plan.” |
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03-05-20, 08:46 PM | #756 |
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I have to agree with Neal. There's a good chance the more virulent and deadly Type L strain is reinfecting people, and it is killing younger people, too. I know of at least 3 female Chinese medical workers in their 20s from Wuhan that died from the virus, and I'm sure there are many more we don't know about. I also read that Wuhan hospitals reported relapse / reinfection rates of over 18%. And again, it's much deadlier the second time around if reinfected, increasing the risk of heart failure and other complications.
Regarding Italy, it appears that they are being hit by the deadlier and more virulent L strain. Same with Iran. Furthermore, I read a few days ago that hospitals in northern Italy were already overloaded and at their breaking point. Besides possible reinfections / relapses, this might also account for the higher death rate of 3.5% there. Many patients simply are not getting proper treatment, so expect the death rate to increase later as more become infected. Last edited by Traveller; 03-05-20 at 09:09 PM. |
03-05-20, 09:14 PM | #757 |
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I dont mean to disregard all possibilities. Could this virus be planted by extraterrestrials in a bid to take over the world? Maybe!
Believe it or not I'm just trying to be reasonable. I understand there is also political pressure by Chinese authorities to reduce on paper the number of new infections. In fact their numbers have always been suspect right from the get go. So I dont doubt there may have also been several proclamations of so called miracle cures too. But where I lean too is the possibility medical staff are so overworked, tired and like us here too much focused on COVID-19. Completely missing other health issues which may have arisen from being infected by COVID-19. Like viral encephalitis of the brain. I still stand by the idea the reason for Italy's current death rate is due to the age of the infected population and maybe even poor or overwhelmed health care services. Not by some unknown mysterious more super powerful strain of cooties that by magic appeared out of nowhere and killed that Chinese guy in just five days of being discharged from hospital. Anyone can track the virus in real time by going to 'Nexstrain'. Speaking of Nexstrain, according to analysts COVID-19 is thought to have been in Seattle since mid-January. Seems it may have gotten around in the U.S. long before it even had a name or border closures.
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03-05-20, 09:33 PM | #758 | |
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I've never been to Italy or China, but I've been to Seattle many times Seattle is old, the homes are old, the buildings are old, the people are old (percentage wise) Italy is crowded and it is old China is crowded and it is old Japan is crowded and it is old South Korea is crowded and it is old Where do people go to the restrooms in old cities? I have a hunch that too close of contact with people that have to go to the restroom could be a contributing factor. Especially in North Korea where they have a lot of communal style restrooms visited by the majority of the population. February is over March is here what's next increase or decrease?
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03-05-20, 09:36 PM | #760 | |
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Again, I think the more reasonable explanation concerning the death of those noble young medical staff is simply that they were human. They were being overworked, poor nutrition, lack of sleep, emotionally drained and physically exhausted, they literally gave their all to help others, dont ever forget them. Any or all of those conditions are well known to be contributing factors which can devastate a persons immune response to viral infection. Please understand I'm not trying to downplay the seriousness of the situation we find ourselves in. Just trying to give reason a chance, instead of what I perceive as the constant looking for of the newest, biggest, meanest, deadliest. unrestrained mutated boogeyman at every turn.
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03-05-20, 10:13 PM | #761 |
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Well enjoy your isolation. I work in hospitals and will likely be exposed at some point and I do take it seriously, so given all that is known, just what is reasonable?
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03-05-20, 10:25 PM | #762 |
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Rockstar, no problem. I hope you're right. I really do.
Why everyone should wear a mask- whether infected or not: https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/...surgical-mask/ https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/...n-coronavirus/ At first, I was skeptical about surgical masks because of all the officials in Western countries claiming they do not protect you if are not infected. Now I know this is absolutely not true. They are basically lying. They only say this to discourage people from buying them because of world-wide shortages. The good news is that surgical masks work almost as well as N95 masks at blocking coronavirus particles. Get a mask if you can and always wear it when going out. N95 is best, but surgical masks also work great at blocking this virus as long as they fit fairly well with few gaps. Heck, even a handkerchief blocks 28% of coronavirus particles. Eye protection is also a must. Last edited by Traveller; 03-05-20 at 10:57 PM. |
03-05-20, 10:46 PM | #763 | |
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I think its reasonable to assume you and I will be infected, by either a Type L, Type S mutation or both at the same time of COVID-19. Type L being the more virulent of the two. see: https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance...searchresult=1 I think its reasonable to assume our health is extremely important when it comes to our immune system and your ability to help others. You must get SLEEP, you must eat right, exercise and find someone to hash it out with if find you're becoming emotionally overwhelmed. https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2017...=1401485533317 I think our chances being abducted by aliens are greater than dying from coronavirus. According to the "Roper Poll" 6% of Americans claimed to have been abducted by aliens
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03-05-20, 10:51 PM | #764 |
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Shouldn't we be thinking about the poor UPS/FedX drivers
Hub grub delivery Water delivery people Diaper service Postal service workers Taxi drivers Law enforcement 1st responders and the list goes on Let us know when you see these people wearing mask PS My first day in 27 days without coughing
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03-05-20, 10:52 PM | #765 | |
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Wear a mask if ya got'em 1.435 BILLION Chinese cant all be wrong.
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