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10-03-19, 03:50 PM | #7576 | |
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Now, if I would ever go back to Turkey or Iran again - now that might mean really deep trouble for me. But honestly said, I do not plan to ever meet those corners of the world again in the rest of my life.
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10-03-19, 04:08 PM | #7577 | ||
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This all is about Trump. And about Trump alone. And many defdend him still only for one reason: if they would not, and Trump falls, they would need to admit that they were terribly wrong themsleves, too, and allowed shabbiness hijacking the WH and that they were the ones who paved him the way there. "Mitgefangen, mitgehangen. " Voters are to be held accountable for what and whom they voted for. They share the responsibility for the consequences of their vote. Quote:
You are distracting an deflecting. And you know it yourself, do you. Its all due to the xtreme camp warfare your poltical lanb dscape has been turned into, and the extreme polarization resulting from it. Its your totem against their totem, its your tribe against their tribe. Its political hooliganism. And the louder the Bangs, the louder the Cheers.
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10-03-19, 04:36 PM | #7578 | ||
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10-03-19, 04:42 PM | #7579 | |
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You can believe in Democrat fairy tales if you want to but nothing Trump has actually done is either illegal or wrong and unlike those two he has every right to be angry at the Democrats constant attempts to overturn the 2016. This Ukraine thing is just the latest attack and it will fail along with the others.
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10-03-19, 05:22 PM | #7580 |
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So that's why he's hiding it.
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10-03-19, 05:35 PM | #7581 | |
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Trump is being pretty out front about this. He is asking these questions publicly. He could just follow the example of his predecessor and get his intel agencies to start a counterintelligence probe into Biden. Would that make you happy?
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10-03-19, 06:11 PM | #7582 |
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10-03-19, 06:27 PM | #7583 | |
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Says - you.
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10-03-19, 06:47 PM | #7584 |
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10-03-19, 07:48 PM | #7585 |
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I prove you nothing. You are no valid criterion.
Trump is to be probed. He is not to hinder it. He is not to influence it. His subordinates are not to hinder justice and the work of the constitutional institutions and procedures. Neither they nor him are to hide demanded documents and records. Neither they nor him are to obstruct justice. Obstruction of justice is a punishable crime -. even for a formal president. If then said justice - left to be neutral and objective - finds the charges against him to be fraudulent and/or wrong, then his innocence is proven and you have a claim to make for his behaviour not being illegal or wrong. And only then. Until then you only spread doubt and conspiration theory and delay and distraction and deflection and illusion, while ignoring his sh!tty manners and excremental unspeakable behaviour all day long as if it were somebody else's words, manners and behaviours, not his. Trump hinders justice. He tries to intimidate and bully witnesses. He wants laws and procedures being bend in his favour. Muller was clear on why he did not charge him. Innocence of the probed subject named Trump was not the reason, he left no doubt on that. And showed by that a quality and class that Trump could not even dream to have, even if the fairy queen would teach him to suddenly appreciate such qualities he never has heard of so far. A psychopathic bigmouth with a deep-rooting paranoia and messianic, megalomaniac selfunderstanding and zero empathy for other living beings, with no sense for self-responsibility, honour, or fairness. Rude in words, vulgar in behaviour, rightous in extremis , and at the same time when being so: revealing how sadly limited he is. A carricature of a human, a laugh of a man, dangerous, unscrupolous, rabid - but ridiculous. A sad being. A joke. One day he will be unmasked, either by lawyers or by historians. And then fools like you will share his shame. German language knows a word for this kind of blind, uncritical, undistanced, reality-ignoring loyalty, even if being malicously led into the abyss of destruction. We call it Kadavergehorsam. It is the direct opposite to noble, well-deserved loyalty, and no compliment at all. For now, you will laugh, I know. But you will not be the last one laughing best.
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10-03-19, 08:38 PM | #7586 | |
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Four whole paragraphs and you couldn't mention one single real crime. You basically say "Trumps a big meanie" and fill in your own personal vitriol. In other words you ain't got nothin'.
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10-03-19, 10:03 PM | #7587 |
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And you do? You prove it then.
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10-03-19, 10:50 PM | #7588 |
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10-03-19, 11:22 PM | #7589 | ||
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Ukraine agency says allegations against Burisma cover period before Biden joined
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10-04-19, 05:11 AM | #7590 |
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A formal president about whom Muller indicated he should undergo impeachment but that it were not his formal responsibility and authority to do so, but representatives' duty. A formal president who implies that whistkleblowers he does not like should be killed, and who actively tries to block personnel in critical offices that could pose a threat of demasking him. Who calls at least on two foreign states to interfere with upcomign natioanl elections in the US, doing it once even in puiblic. A formal president who talks rubbish and contradicts himself, who offends people as he pleases, and frnakly illustrates his paranoia and conpsiration theories at many opportunities.
But August says that he did nothing wrong. Trump does wrong, all the time. Under everybody's eyes. You have no argument, August, what you have is called agitation. And denial of reality. Impeachment will most likely falter in the senate, since Trump profiteers have the majority there, but no spine or honesty. This does not mean Trump did not wrong and is innocent. It only documents the limits of justice possible within the constitutional order, and shows that the crisis is a constitutional system crisis - Trump is not the cause for it, but just the latest symptom. But the symptom that in the present, right now, is doing all the damage. The American political system is disenchanted now at the latest. actually it happened already earlier, else Trump would not have become possible.
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