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09-25-19, 05:11 PM | #7486 |
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In the primetime news I heard our journalist in USA saying:
The Dem shall be careful, the voters could become sick and tired, in this ongoing effort to impeach Trump instead of beating him on the political scene (as good as I could remember it) Markus |
09-25-19, 05:31 PM | #7487 | |
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He'll shred their open borders / tax the rich / white people are yucky platform. But If he is removed I reckon Warren or Biden could knock out Pence as he has all the Charisma of a farting wax work accountant. Biggest threat to Reps = successful Trump impeachment or sudden economic downturn. Biggest thread to Dems = mostly themselves. Last edited by JU_88; 09-25-19 at 05:44 PM. |
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09-25-19, 05:58 PM | #7488 | |
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Say what you want about Trump but facts are facts.
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https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/peter-schweizer-biden-familys-foreign-dealings-7-essential-facts
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09-25-19, 11:16 PM | #7489 |
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Oh oh oh, let me let me!
Fact: The Obama administration, like many other nations, sought to get rid of Shokin (the Ukrainian prosecutor) because he was too soft on corruption. Fact: Ukrainians themselves consider this case investigated. Fact: Trump asked a foreign government to investigate one of his prime rival's son, which would be extremely useful in the coming presidential election against said rival. Basically, it's 'Russia, if you're listening...' all over again. |
09-26-19, 05:04 AM | #7490 |
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This whole story amuses me, I was told a while ago by a knowledgeable person to expect the Ukrainian interference with 2016 elections to pop up this season.
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09-26-19, 05:04 AM | #7491 |
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https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/26/p...ats/index.html
"Speaking in a code?" I think he spoke pretty straight and presented his demand quite obviously. But in hierarchies like these, of course every superior knows how to encode his wishes and demands in a way that the subordinates know what is expected of them without the superior needing to explicitly saying it in literal words. Where there are hierarchies, there is this form of communication. It aims at pushing forward with things that to explicitly demand would be considered illegal or inappropriate or otherwise negatively. It also aims at leaving open the escape way: "see, this I have not said, show me where I have said it in words!" One can say somethign asd clearly without excplcitly explaining it in words. Anyhow. The Dems need 67 senators in senate, but the Reps have the majority. Question is how many Reps still are willing to stick their heads into the sand for opportunistic party loyalty and craving for staying in power. So far it looks as if the Democrat's "offensive" is set to stall in the senate at the latest.
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09-26-19, 05:19 AM | #7492 | |
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Pence in 2020!
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09-26-19, 06:32 AM | #7493 | |
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And this recent issue is about Joe Biden's son, not him. It is also about the fact that we now have the President of the United States asking for potential dirt on his rival from the head of a foreign government. That to me doesn't sound OK. Also, I remind that this call is 1 out of 8 (IIRC). |
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09-26-19, 10:11 AM | #7494 |
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Report on the whistleblower is out. Reads not good for Trump, and obviously they tried to prevent the publishing. As I see it, here is a president who asked another foreign nation to ac tively interfere with the general elections of the US.
We can talk about Biden and Biden's son back and forth, but we do it later. This issue here is what is the atual and fa rmore deciociove one. It reminds of the deal between Reagan's Republicans and their deal with Iran to delay the freeing of the hostages until Carter was beaten. For such acts I use this old-fashioned word, "High Treason". And if what I quickly read form that report in first media comments turns out to be true, what Trump did also is High Treason and an assault on the constitutional order and the vital interest of the United States. Is there a window of opportunity opening? Time will tell. The Democracts still are weak by themselves, still have unacceptable perosnnel in the first line, even if they might have found a big hammer here. No use in a heavy tool if you lack the muscles to swing it.
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09-26-19, 11:41 AM | #7495 |
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Isn't it a job for the FBI or some other authorities if a politicians or their relatives commit federal crime in another country ?
Does the federal law in USA permit a President having a second job e.g private detective ? Markus |
09-26-19, 11:52 AM | #7496 |
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Just the democrats controlling the House of Representatives is not enough to impeach the POTUS ... Big stink till sometime next year when they lose in the Senate.
Am I wrong?
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09-26-19, 12:03 PM | #7497 |
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I know the Rep are in majority in the Senate and what I understand is Senate have to give the go-ahead if the President shall be impeached
A thought From reading some of your post, specially Skybirds and seeing the news I wonder how much his party(the Rep) will support him, if it's true all this. Markus |
09-26-19, 12:04 PM | #7498 | |
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Trump is the constitutional master of the prosecutorial function within the executive branch, and he is well within his authority to insist upon an investigation, even if it involves a political opponent.
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09-26-19, 05:38 PM | #7499 |
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Its now known that it was not.
Bad. Worse. More worse. I do not kn ow wiocxh situation currently is more embarassing for the hosting nation: the circus in the UK where they try to weasel away fromBrexit, or the circus in the US where they try to make it look as if Trump is fine. Two great shows, but it starts to get boring after all this time. Lets have a successful Brexit AND a successful impeachment. The audience deserves it after it was abused this long.
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09-26-19, 05:46 PM | #7500 |
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A successful impeachment would lead to an even worse case scenario ...
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