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Old 08-01-05, 04:26 PM   #61
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Well in that case Das Boot is leftist propaganda, too. As is every other movie with an anti-war message.

Bleh. Anything that is not rightist is leftist propaganda

(<= mid-leftist, technically)
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Old 08-01-05, 05:33 PM   #62
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Why on earth do you folks think that anthing that is anti war is automaticly "leftist" Pleanty of warmongers with communist or scocialist points of view. do the names Mao, Stalin and Ho mean anything?
As for bad movies
Bridge on the River Kwai (so inaccurate)
Pearl Harbour
and I can't remember the name of the Vietnam war movie with John Wayne playing a character that should have been at least 25 years younger.

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Old 08-01-05, 10:37 PM   #63
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I've tried on 3 different occasions to watch Thin Red Line and I think I made it to the 30 minute point once. I even tried to read the script one time and didn't finish it either...Too boring.

Windtalkers- Didn't finish this one either. When we got to the stereotypical redneck, I bailed....

Pearl Harbor- Beyond bad. I did actually watch this one to the end because Kate Beckensale is a dish

I don't judge older movies very harshly because of the production standards at the time they were made.
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Old 08-01-05, 11:00 PM   #64
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and I can't remember the name of the Vietnam war movie with John Wayne playing a character that should have been at least 25 years younger.
Was it "The Green Berets"?
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Old 08-01-05, 11:09 PM   #65
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I did actually watch this one to the end because Kate Beckensale is a dish
So, so so so true.
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Old 08-01-05, 11:34 PM   #66
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Yeah it was the Green Berets
and another on the crap list
Behind Enemy Lines
not a believeable character to be seen
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Old 08-01-05, 11:42 PM   #67
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Just watched Gallipoli and am sorry to say I have to add it to this list. It had so much potential, but the 1980s synthesizer-crap soundtrack really killed it for me. Not enough for the 'worst' list, but enough to keep me from watching it again for a long, long time.


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Old 08-02-05, 01:42 AM   #68
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While I agreed that Reagan's policies were calculated, and the USSR could not keep up with the economic strain, Reagan's policies were only a a catalyst. I would argue that the rot had set in a long time before Reagan came along - all the way back to Stalin and Kruschev, and Brezhnev's policies ensured that the USSR couldn't win the cold war.

I strongly doubt that the USSR would have lasted much more than another 20 years or so after 1989, with or without Reagan.
Maybe the next time the Russians have their elections, everyone can vote for Gennady Zyuganov, and we can see how commumism does a second time around.
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Old 08-02-05, 02:00 AM   #69
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how the hell did u not like The Thin Red Line.. I wouldnt consider that a warfilm, more like a humanity film. The music and the interaction with th men and their experiences is awesome!! It shows more of the mens feelings rather then blood and guts. The part at the end when the main character dies. Oh! BRILLIANT!!!! If you actually pay attention to the film, you'll notice that cahracter talks about his mom dying in a nice peaceful death with birdies and the family and what not, and how he wants to die just like that.. And he does. When he is surrounded, he looks around at the trees and the birds singing and the sun.. And then dies. OH!! AWESOME! What a MOVIE!!!
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Reagan said f*ck that and made the USSR push itself more than it could sustain. Which obviously resulted in the collapse of the economy. Now if only Bush would follow Reagan's example and call Puttin a dictatorial Stalinist Russia may become a successful democracy.
OK, no more Fox News for you. :rotfl: What is it with you trying to convert every county to a way you want things to be run. Can't you see it doesn't work?!

Anyway, regarding the movies - for sure the Pearl Harbour was lame but all war movies are bound to have a large degree of bias and propoganda. They are never a historica account of what happened, rather a reinforcement of steriortypes/propoganda from the actual war era.


Enemy At The Gates? Have you seen that one, about the sniper in Stalingrad? Omg. Give me a break!
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Old 08-02-05, 04:05 AM   #71
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Anyway, regarding the movies - for sure the Pearl Harbour was lame but all war movies are bound to have a large degree of bias and propoganda. They are never a historica account of what happened, rather a reinforcement of steriortypes/propoganda from the actual war era.
I agree, but even in historical books you will be presented an author's point of view, right?
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Anyway, regarding the movies - for sure the Pearl Harbour was lame but all war movies are bound to have a large degree of bias and propoganda. They are never a historica account of what happened, rather a reinforcement of steriortypes/propoganda from the actual war era.
I agree, but even in historical books you will be presented an author's point of view, right?
You know what the say about History - the winners write it. :|\
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I`m sure I`ve forgotten about some craps, but the worst war films i`ve seen are as follows:
U-571. I couldn`t believe that such a bad film can be made and, moreover, can be advertized as a solid piece of good war movie. Argh....
Enemy at the gates - for few scenes, a good NKWD ( Jeez, didn`t THEY know what the 10.th NKWD Division actually DID in Stalingrad ? What was their role in the battle ???? ) and few other things.
pearl Harbor - we can argue if the attack scene was good, bad or average but I don`t doubt all the rest WAS awful.
The bridge at Remagen - nothing special at ALL.
Some Russian war movies, with ultimately brave Red Army... propaganda pointers running beyond measure...
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1. U-571 - A ludicrous piece of ****e, an ansult to everyone's inteligence.

2. Behind Enemy Lines. - H.o.l.y s.h.i.t.e what a load of BS, 360 degree tracking active AA misiles, the final rambo scene etc etc..

3. Pearl Harbor - 70% lovestory crap, 30% reasonable atack scenes.
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