Banning Trans Fats

Bubblehead1980 · 11-10-13, 03:36 PM

Normally, I am against government banning just about anything, but in the case of trans fats, I find myself okay with it.Anyone agree, disagree? I will admit my knowledge of this is limited, some reading on subject is in progress but I do tend to trust science in most cases, we know trans fats are terrible for us, likely a major factor in heart disease epidemic in our nation.This is where seemingly logical, practical, actions conflicts with principle, bit torn on the subject.

11-10-13, 04:00 PM

I'm of the opinion I don't want anyone banning something for my own good.

We've seen to often how that leads to basic rights being taken away.

We've also seen that once something is banned? A simple change in it's chemical make up bypasses the bans. With a usual bad out come. (Bath Salts come to mind)

If you are going to protect me by banning Trans fats?
I'd expect you'd want to protect me by makeing me wear a helmet when I ride my Triumph.

How about a ban on obese people eating junk food?
Say scales at all Fast food joints and if you get pinged you can't eat there?

Ducimus · 11-10-13, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Normally, I am against government banning just about anything, but in the case of trans fats, I find myself okay with it.Anyone agree, disagree?

Strongly disagree.

Since a picture is worth 1000 words.

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

I'm of the opinion I don't want anyone banning something for my own good.

We've seen to often how that leads to basic rights being taken away.

We've also seen that once something is banned? A simple change in it's chemical make up bypasses the bans. With a usual bad out come. (Bath Salts come to mind)

If you are going to protect me by banning Trans fats?
I'd expect you'd want to protect me by makeing me wear a helmet when I ride my Triumph.

How about a ban on obese people eating junk food?
Say scales at all Fast food joints and if you get pinged you can't eat there?

This.

As an aside, If i turn into a fat fricking pig; It is my own damn fault for making poor choices. However at least the choice was mine to make. If trans fat is such a big public health issue, then I would agree to warning labels , or something that otherwise advises of the possible consequences of the decision i was about to make, but the decision should always be up to the individual to make. Kinda like tobacco I suppose.

This is suppose to be a free country. Where you can live your own life as you see fit for yourself.

edit:
Personal responsibility, it seems to be a novel concept these days. I'm kinda partial to it myself.

Garion · 11-10-13, 04:27 PM

They tried it in 'American Dad'...

It didnae work.....

Cheers

gary

11-10-13, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Normally, I am against government banning just about anything, but in the case of trans fats, I find myself okay with it.Anyone agree, disagree? I will admit my knowledge of this is limited, some reading on subject is in progress but I do tend to trust science in most cases, we know trans fats are terrible for us, likely a major factor in heart disease epidemic in our nation.This is where seemingly logical, practical, actions conflicts with principle, bit torn on the subject.

I'd call it Darwin at it's best - do not ban that stuff.

Herr-Berbunch · 11-10-13, 04:45 PM

Don't want trans-fats? Don't eat processed food.

Buy fresh ingredients and cook them yourself, it may cost a little more but what cost is quality of life?

11-10-13, 04:48 PM

I'd say have Mrs. Obama start a 'Put the Donut down' thing like Mrs. Reagan's 'Just say No' joke.

I also find it strange You of all people would kind of agree with anything like this!
Is this some kind of test?

Jimbuna · 11-10-13, 04:58 PM

Eat more curry

CaptainMattJ. · 11-10-13, 05:07 PM

But do you not set a line on what should and shouldnt be banned? Drugs are banned. Fireworks are banned in many places.

So who decides where the line is drawn?

Armistead · 11-10-13, 05:25 PM

Ban trans fat, what will poor people eat?

11-10-13, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

Drugs are banned.

I think if one has enuff money? Drugs ain't banned just 'regulated'.
Most things I see about drugs? I'd rather suffer the problem not the cure!

kranz · 11-10-13, 05:03 PM

Why would anyone want to pester obese transsexuals?
They are people too

Ducimus · 11-11-13, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

I'd say have Mrs. Obama start a 'Put the Donut down' thing like Mrs. Reagan's 'Just say No' joke.

I also find it strange You of all people would kind of agree with anything like this!
Is this some kind of test?

Speaking of donuts, a 2 minute video for bubblehead:

nikimcbee · 11-10-13, 06:56 PM

No.

Everything you need to know is here.

Want a hot apple pie?

My favorite part of this whole documentary is the part about lawyers (@25 min).

Skybird · 11-10-13, 07:28 PM

I had to realise that every time government does something like this, it is a door opener for even more of the same to follow. And that is why I am now totally opposing such steps.

However, I like mandatory health insurance gone, and becoming voluntary. Where you chose it voluntarily, I want options for people to increaser their tariffs to cover health consequences they are responsible for all themselves (smoking, eating tons of sugar and drinking tons of soft drinks, etc) - I do not see why everybody should obligatorily pay for individuals' lack of information, their irresponsibility, or their stupid behavior. You want an insurance for fallout resulting from your own stupidity? That should cost you accordingly then. The more stupid you act, the more it shall cost you. where that is too difficult to judge or too complicated in bureaucratic processes, there shall be no insurrance option at all. That will make people either think - or die early before they become a burden by own fault for all other payers.

But its the age of rampant socialism and everybody living with both his hands in other people's pockets. Go figure.

11-10-13, 03:36 PM	#1
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,107 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Banning Trans Fats Normally, I am against government banning just about anything, but in the case of trans fats, I find myself okay with it.Anyone agree, disagree? I will admit my knowledge of this is limited, some reading on subject is in progress but I do tend to trust science in most cases, we know trans fats are terrible for us, likely a major factor in heart disease epidemic in our nation.This is where seemingly logical, practical, actions conflicts with principle, bit torn on the subject.

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Don't want trans-fats? Don't eat processed food. Buy fresh ingredients and cook them yourself, it may cost a little more but what cost is quality of life? __________________

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CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	But do you not set a line on what should and shouldnt be banned? Drugs are banned. Fireworks are banned in many places. So who decides where the line is drawn? __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Ban trans fat, what will poor people eat? __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

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Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'm of the opinion I don't want anyone banning something for my own good. We've seen to often how that leads to basic rights being taken away. We've also seen that once something is banned? A simple change in it's chemical make up bypasses the bans. With a usual bad out come. (Bath Salts come to mind) If you are going to protect me by banning Trans fats? I'd expect you'd want to protect me by makeing me wear a helmet when I ride my Triumph. How about a ban on obese people eating junk food? Say scales at all Fast food joints and if you get pinged you can't eat there?

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Garion Commander Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 452 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	They tried it in 'American Dad'... It didnae work..... Cheers gary

11-10-13, 04:48 PM	#7
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'd say have Mrs. Obama start a 'Put the Donut down' thing like Mrs. Reagan's 'Just say No' joke. I also find it strange You of all people would kind of agree with anything like this! Is this some kind of test?

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kranz The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 1,430 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Why would anyone want to pester obese transsexuals? They are people too

11-10-13, 06:56 PM	#14
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	No. Everything you need to know is here. Want a hot apple pie? My favorite part of this whole documentary is the part about lawyers (@25 min). __________________ Last edited by nikimcbee; 11-10-13 at 07:20 PM.

11-10-13, 07:28 PM	#15
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,637 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I had to realise that every time government does something like this, it is a door opener for even more of the same to follow. And that is why I am now totally opposing such steps. However, I like mandatory health insurance gone, and becoming voluntary. Where you chose it voluntarily, I want options for people to increaser their tariffs to cover health consequences they are responsible for all themselves (smoking, eating tons of sugar and drinking tons of soft drinks, etc) - I do not see why everybody should obligatorily pay for individuals' lack of information, their irresponsibility, or their stupid behavior. You want an insurance for fallout resulting from your own stupidity? That should cost you accordingly then. The more stupid you act, the more it shall cost you. where that is too difficult to judge or too complicated in bureaucratic processes, there shall be no insurrance option at all. That will make people either think - or die early before they become a burden by own fault for all other payers. But its the age of rampant socialism and everybody living with both his hands in other people's pockets. Go figure. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.