Schools out in Chicago

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Are you going to hide behind your "moderator" badge? So push your own table.

Address my point. Can you?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

That's why didn't make the offer to Jim.

Honestly PT boats don't interest me much anyway. If i was to step back into modding, id go off the deepend and make a fantasy submarine super mod. Just not neccessarily call it that in the title. Or maybe i would. I've always been curious as to what deviltry can be conjured with the fantasy walter boat in SH4:UBM, superimposed on a fictional campaign.

Cause then you'd have free license to make convoys however large you want, the missions whatever you want, or the ASW however you like. You could make a lot of toys in the way of upgrades, and make alot of dangers. Super sub, in a super hard envioronment, without the constraints of being historically correct or accurate. But hey, I have alot of ideas. Trouble is, most of em suck.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Honestly PT boats don't interest me much anyway. If i was to step back into modding, id go off the deepend and make a fantasy submarine super mod. Just not neccessarily call it that in the title. Or maybe i would. I've always been curious as to what deviltry can be conjured with the fantasy walter boat in SH4:UBM, superimposed on a fictional campaign.

Cause then you'd have free license to make convoys however large you want, the missions whatever you want, or the ASW however you like. You could make a lot of toys in the way of upgrades, and make alot of dangers. Super sub, in a super hard envioronment, without the constraints of being historically correct or accurate. But hey, I have alot of ideas. Trouble is, most of em suck.

My $.02 US about modders, for what it's worth. There are two types. The first does tons of work, knows that it means the world to the community and expects to be treated like a god. This person craves the spotlight. The second does tons of work, knows that it means the world to the community and does not care if he is treated like a god. He wants no spotlight. The second type is you, Ducimus.

[nikimcbee]

Wow, you're a stubborn dude fluffy, I'll give you that.

Here's an idea.
I say you should resign as a moderator and become a regular member if you're going to be a partisan hack. You pretend to be "professional", until somebody pushes back, then you play the moderator card.

See I expect more out a moderator. Neon (THE moderator for this forum) dosn't treat other people the way you do. He is very professional and non-partisan.

The most respectful moderator at subsim (IMO) is CCIP. I think he is the best (model) moderator here and you should look to his example on how a moderator should behave towards the average members. He is not insulting,the way you are, he dosen't resort to name calling, like you do. There has been subjects that we (CCIP) haven't agreed on, but he is still respectful to the other opinion.

It's one thing if lay-members treat each ither poorly, but a moderator should not behave like that.

So, I'm done with this discussion with you.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Wow, you're a stubborn dude fluffy, I'll give you that.

Here's an idea.
I say you should resign as a moderator and become a regular member if you're going to be a partisan hack. You pretend to be "professional", until somebody pushes back, then you play the moderator card.

See I expect more out a moderator. Neon (THE moderator for this forum) dosn't treat other people the way you do. He is very professional and non-partisan.

The most respectful moderator at subsim (IMO) is CCIP. I think he is the best (model) moderator here and you should look to his example on how a moderator should behave towards the average members. He is not insulting,the way you are, he dosen't resort to name calling, like you do. There has been subjects that we (CCIP) haven't agreed on, but he is still respectful to the other opinion.

It's one thing if lay-members treat each ither poorly, but a moderator should not behave like that.

So, I'm done with this discussion with you.

Says the one that has done nothing but instigate and argue. I wasn't aware that there was a discussion. I posted a point. You responded with personal attacks, and then proceeded to lecture me on what a bad moderator I am. QED.

[Ducimus]

Flattery will get you no where taks.

As an aside, as modders go, I consider myself mediocre, (a master of nothing) even though some people (mistakenly) put me on a freaking pedistal. Despite the line in my sig, i STILL get PM's asking for this or that. Leave me alone. I have a list of games i bought on steam I still need to play!

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

If i was to step back into modding, id go off the deepend and make a fantasy submarine super mod.

SH5 is calling you.


What's a SHV anyway?

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Flattery will get you no where taks.

As an aside, as modders go, I consider myself mediocre, even though some people (mistakenly) put me on a freaking pedistal. Despite the line in my sig, i STILL get PM's asking for this or that. Leave me alone. I have a list of games i bought on steam I still need to play!

Wasn't meant as flattery. It was the truth. Many, many members have tried to entice you to return to modding. You didn't. Others would have returned because of ego. You keep your's in check, and that is something that I wish was more common.

[nikimcbee]

back on topic, @1480, so are you in the middle of this mess?

[Oberon]

I don't know what the situation in the States is like, but over here, well, qualifications might as well be printed on toilet paper for all they are worth.
I didn't do too badly at school, but I couldn't afford to University fees. I have decent GCSEs and A levels, and I'm doing part time work as a night porter. Ok, there's a lot more behind the reason that I'm doing this than just a lack of jobs, transportation for one thing.
If the employment market isn't there, then all you are doing is shoving more people into the dole queue, and creating a generation of NEETs (or NINJAs as I prefer to call them).
Now, I'm fairly centralised, I have some left leaning beliefs, and some slightly right leaning ones, but I think that nations need to start thinking about just how much in the long term intergrating themselves so completely into a globalised trading system is working out for them. For example, in the UK a large proportion of our food comes from abroad (insert stereotypical comment on British food here), and so you have to add transportation costs on that and if something ever happened to interrupt that food shipment routine, then the country would run out of food fairly swiftly.
We have invested so much into teritery industry, that the primary and secondary industries have withered and died. Sheffield used to be based around a massive steel industry until the 1980s, and when that collapsed, well...see 'The Full Monty' for some examples of life in the old steel city in the early 1990s. We're going full circle now as some steel industries are being reopened, some old coal mines are being reopened, because with the rising costs of fuel, it's not as economical to transport from abroad as it once was.
Now, in the US you have a better chance of doing this than we do, since you are not linked into the EU, but there is always the risk that focusing on internal industry will lead to a massive rise in nationalism and xenophobia, which we can see already in some nations. It's a delicate balancing act, and there are no easy answers.

[Ducimus]

I wouldn't call it ego (humility), so much as painful memories of how much time i sunk into that "hobby". Try sitting in a computer chair for 4 hours before work, going to work and sitting another 8, then go home and sit behind a computer some more until maybe you have 5 hours or so (sometimes less) of sleep before you get up in the morning to do your 4 hours before work shift of modding.

Do that for two or three weeks straight because your driven by a self imposed deadline and community expectations. Painful leg cramps? Check. Sleep deprivation? Check. Increased stress in my life? Check. Second unpaid job? Check. Believe me, it is VERY easy for me to stay out of modding. Ego (or lack thereof ) has little to do with it. Besides that, People can make their own mods, if they want to. But why should they when some schumck will do it for them?

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I don't know what the situation in the States is like, but over here, well, qualifications might as well be printed on toilet paper for all they are worth.

It differes from state to state. In Pennsylvania, once degreed and certified, the teachers has to comply with Act 48.

http://www.education.state.pa.us/por...ucation/507094

Essentially, Act 48 requires that teachers continue with course work at a set amount for the duration of their professional career. In reality, it has done little more than ensure work for the post-graduate educators, as teachers are required to pursue course work that amounts to an endless succession of masters degrees. Like NCLB, it is something that pleases the politicians but does little to further the quality of education.

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I wouldn't call it ego (humility), so much as painful memories of how much time i sunk into that "hobby". Try sitting in a computer chair for 4 hours before work, going to work and sitting another 8, then go home and sit behind a computer some more until maybe you have 5 hours or so (sometimes less) of sleep before you get up in the morning to do your 4 hours before work shift of modding.

Do that for two or three weeks straight because your driven by a self imposed deadline and community expectations. Painful leg cramps? Check. Sleep deprivation? Check. Increased stress in my life? Check. Second unpaid job? Check. Believe me, it is VERY easy for me to stay out of modding. Ego (or lack thereof ) has little to do with it. Besides that, People can make their own mods, if they want to. But why should they when some schumck will do it for them?

I ran down the list of games that I love and came to the conclusion that I would not be willing to do any of that for a single one. You are a more dedicated man than I.

[Oberon]

We've had a situation crop up over here over the past few months which has caused the potential for students in one part of the country to have their work marked at a different level to students in another part (Wales and England respectively) because of a difference of opinion between Edexcel, an exam issuing and marking company, and Ofqual, the government regulator of examinations and assessments. The problem lies in that the exams in January were too leniently marked, thus in order that quotas for the year were not exceeded, the exams for June have to be marked more harshly.
The Welsh government has decided that the exams in question should be regraded so that their results would be higher than those in England.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19556777

I feel sorry for the poor kids stuck in the middle of all this mess.

[1480]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Lewis is a real piece of work from the looks of it. I understand that the teachers are paid $75,000.00/year. That looks great on paper but what is the standard of living in the Chicago area? $75,000 in NY City gets you a parking spot for the year at your condo. Benefits are probably very good I would imagine.

I started with the Chicago police department in 92 at 30,300. Because of my years of service and sergeant rank, my base pay now is 89,000. With buy backs and being able to sell back up to 200 hours of comp time, I take home a little bit over 100k. Average family take home in Chicago is 44,000-47,000 a year. COLI is lower then both NY and LA. But we do have the 2nd highest sales tax and gas prices as of today from a gas station no where near the loop or the expressway was, 4.45 regular unleaded.

[1480]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

The Bush administration tried to fix education through standardized testing. No Child Left Behind was a disaster, as it increased teacher workload with no appreciable gain in results. And the business model of productivity (best results for as little money) doesn't fly either. It is built on the principle that one can motivate those making the product through incentive. However, the product is the test score itself, and the test is taken by the student, whom you cannot fire. Anyone that has spent longer than 30 seconds in a classroom can tell you that there are just some students that don't want to do the work. In urban areas, where family support is less, the percentage of students with this mindset jumps exponentially. The teacher is then faced with an impossible task, regardless of ability.

Well I agree with your premise, but no one wants to face the 800lb gorilla in the room. If you give me a day or two I can probably get you the numbers, racial make up and area of the city. Because of political correctness no one wants to point the finger at the real problem. You dance around by alluding to problem. Call a spade a spade. You will be known for your courage.