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Old 05-10-13, 03:09 AM   #61
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I don't think Neal needs the advice, just a sex change and a nip/tuck here and there.
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Old 05-10-13, 05:15 AM   #62
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I don't think Neal needs the advice, just a sex change and a nip/tuck here and there.
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happens in TX so it MUST be Neal's student.
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Old 05-10-13, 09:01 AM   #64
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I don't think Neal needs the advice, just a sex change and a nip/tuck here and there.
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Old 05-10-13, 12:52 PM   #65
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Sorry to hear that it didn't turn out as you wanted.
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I'm also very surprised to hear that's its not what's best for the children that's what's most important, but rather that the teachers are the same age?

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Old 05-10-13, 02:28 PM   #66
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Sorry to hear that it didn't turn out as you wanted.
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I'm also very surprised to hear that's its not what's best for the children that's what's most important, but rather that the teachers are the same age?

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I agree. It almost sounds like age discrimination. A nice little thing i'm starting to see myself.
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I agree. It almost sounds like age discrimination. A nice little thing i'm starting to see myself.
Truth be told it is age and sex discrimination that Neal experienced. Like Herr-Burcunch posted...Get some breast implants and face lift. He will then have a shot at that position. Neal might have had good case.

I agree with McBeck, it was poor choice over personal choice of who to work with as opposed to what was the best choice for the children.
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Truth be told it is age and sex discrimination that Neal experienced. Like Herr-Burcunch posted...Get some breast implants and face lift. He will then have a shot at that position. Neal might have had good case.

I agree with McBeck, it was poor choice over personal choice of who to work with as opposed to what was the best choice for the children.
I suppose that means he could go the legal action route if he wanted?
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I suppose that means he could go the legal action route if he wanted?
Maybe, but I doubt that would get him the job and even if he did, would he want it then...
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I suppose that means he could go the legal action route if he wanted?
I would suspect Neal could have a case. Problem is, "he said, she said." Just deny anything was said other than Neal did not qualify. She is off the hook. But, like McBeck has said, to what end? Just carry on a bit more wiser.
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I don't think Neal needs the advice, just a sex change and a nip/tuck here and there.
If you do that, watch out for Dowly.
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That original system, which I myself experimented, worked reasonably well and served to lead people into what was most appropiate to their abilities/motivation, but as you say it has been destroyed by good-will leftists who think that it was classist or leaded to frustrations. What a stupidity. Having in the same class intelligent and stupid childs with and without a support at home and huge differences in many areas is a sure way to disaster. But don't tell that a leftist, they want everybody to be able to have a universitary title -and if they lack the level, then let's move that level down. So everybody can be "equal".

Yes, I have long carried the same mindset--teaching to all levels in one class is not the way to go. And push like hell for every student to go to college--pay for it with taxpayer money and make it super easy. Because the country needs every child to be a college graduate. I agree with you. My short time teaching has only hardened that philosophy. I do not agree with the all-inclusive approach to education, I see it as very counterproductive, inefficient, and a really difficult task for the teacher.

I'm also much more enlightened about the whole system now. The public, acting through the government, want the best education for their children. So, let's make sure the curriculum is top notch. Let's make sure the teachers are top-notch, willing to commit their lives to the task of education, and fully accountable for the results. And, let's allow the parents to raise their children without a whiff of discipline, self-control or respect for their teachers.

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I suppose that means he could go the legal action route if he wanted?
Oh lord, can you imagine how that would look? Nah, I have long realized there are types of discrimination in everything, sometimes it's good, sometimes not. Who has not discriminated at some point? I can accept it, it makes me work a little harder to achieve my goal but it does not make it impossible. In this case, it would be horrible to force myself on a group of young ladies who feel more comfortable with someone they can bond with. It's cool, and I really respect the princicpal for being honest (she didn't come out and say "we discriminated against you", but she certainly did not lie or cover it up with bs--kudos, young lady).

So, I want to be a teacher. I want to be a teacher more than anything in life. Well, no, not to that extent. I want to be a teacher and help young people learn the value of education, to help them grow, and to feel the gratification of an important job well-done. And summers off.

So, I accepted the situation, and looked for ways to make the best of it. I signed up for the substitution program for two different school districts, Pearland and Pasadena. They are polar opposites, Pearland is growing and affluent (by rural Texas standards); Pasadena is an old section of Houston, stagnant and poor, a Hispanic ghetto. Pearland is where I live, where my youngest daughter attends high school. Pasadena is where I worked at the the cycle shop, the reason I got my CHL. Yet, honestly, I was excited about making a difference. Yeah, I knew going in it would not be easy. When the topic came up with my friends and family, I said "we'll see how it goes".

So, I got fingerprinted (twice), attended both the indoctrination seminars, and read up on what to expect. I had been in the classroom a number of times during my teacher training classes last spring and summer (2012), so I had many chances to observer different classrooms and teachers: wow, some of them were really good--very patient, firm and caring. Could I learn those skills? Could I measure up? Could I make this work? I'm an ex-chemical operator, marine department tankerman, and accountant. A good ol' boy from the ranch. Was this a fish out of water story or what?
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You're doing secondary ed, right? How many schools are there in those two districts? (2ndary)

Now that I now you're subbing, My advice still stands. I'm assuming you like teaching history, so go in and meet as many of the teachers (social studies) you can, shake their hand and give them your name and number. If you leave a good imppression, they'll call you! Subbing for a subject you like beats the hell out of subjects you don't like. If you stick with subbing (for next year), do all of your heavy lifting this year and you'll be primed for next year.

Do the districts (Pearland and Pasadena) have automated sub calling systems? Teacher calls computer, computer calls you?

Depending how big those two districts are, you may want to add a third district, if you intend on working everyday.

For the most part, I really liked subbing. Every day is different. If you have a class full of (@#$%), you get a different class the next day. Once the work pump was primed and the calls/work was steady, I could pick and choose which classes I'd sub for and reject the schools and subjects I didn't like. If I wanted a day off, I just turned my phone off.
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You're doing secondary ed, right? How many schools are there in those two districts? (2ndary)

Now that I now you're subbing, My advice still stands. I'm assuming you like teaching history, so go in and meet as many of the teachers (social studies) you can, shake their hand and give them your name and number. If you leave a good imppression, they'll call you! Subbing for a subject you like beats the hell out of subjects you don't like. If you stick with subbing (for next year), do all of your heavy lifting this year and you'll be primed for next year.

Do the districts (Pearland and Pasadena) have automated sub calling systems? Teacher calls computer, computer calls you?

Depending how big those two districts are, you may want to add a third district, if you intend on working everyday.

For the most part, I really liked subbing. Every day is different. If you have a class full of (@#$%), you get a different class the next day. Once the work pump was primed and the calls/work was steady, I could pick and choose which classes I'd sub for and reject the schools and subjects I didn't like. If I wanted a day off, I just turned my phone off.
I'm subbing for middle school, junior high and high school. Probably 25 - 35 schools in total. Yes, they both have an automated system. It's a great way to pick a job, burn a day and make a little cash. I was able to work 4 days a week easily, and could have made it 5.
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