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Old 03-08-11, 06:15 PM   #61
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I love my Prius. The only reason I am getting rid of it is because of my dog rescue stuff. I needed something a little bigger in the cargo area.
Get a Ford Ranger in a 4 cylinder. You buy American and get 29 highway in one fell swoop.

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Gas price surge reaches the 2-week mark

Gas prices have risen nearly 15 cents so far this month. That's on top of a nearly 27 cent increase in February.

California continues to have the highest gas prices in the nation, with drivers there paying an average of $3.908 a gallon. Hawaii had the second highest average price at $3.89 a gallon, while Alaska came in third at $3.845 a gallon.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/08/news...my/gas_prices/
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Old 03-08-11, 06:17 PM   #62
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I love my Prius. The only reason I am getting rid of it is because of my dog rescue stuff. I needed something a little bigger in the cargo area.

Comfortable car and the WORST gas mileage I ever got was 40.
just wondering, never saw a Prius outside CA...
40mpg is about the best I get , but only when i travel at constant speed about 60/65 mph, but I drive a small car (cliché european )
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Old 03-08-11, 06:25 PM   #63
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just wondering, never saw a Prius outside CA...
40mpg is about the best I get , but only when i travel at constant speed about 60/65 mph, but I drive a small car (cliché european )
I don't know where you have lived, but in North Virginia there is a cubic buttload of Prius. In my office complex there are about 10 between the three buildings.

If you want to be invisible here, drive a silver Prius. You will blend in.
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Old 03-08-11, 06:42 PM   #64
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Oil companies can pretty much charge whatever they want, and we'll pay it. We always do. It's not like we have a choice.
We've been pretty much doing that for at least equally as long if not longer and don't forget we are also an 'oil producer'.........pro rata of course.
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Old 03-08-11, 06:44 PM   #65
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I don't know where you have lived, but in North Virginia there is a cubic buttload of Prius. In my office complex there are about 10 between the three buildings.

If you want to be invisible here, drive a silver Prius. You will blend in.
When crossing the border from CA to NV all Priusses suddenly disappear...
To be fair, I've been to the States also prior to the Prius age, lived there only for a short time, but even then I had the feeling that people in Beetles, Escorts or other small cars get hunted down merciless

What's the deal with silver btw? Same in Germany, all cars are black, white or silver, people don't like colour anymore... That's my the Pengumobile is yellow: easy to spot at a parking lot.
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We've been pretty much doing that for at least equally as long if not longer and don't forget we are also an 'oil producer'.........pro rata of course.
yeah that's been well established. The thing is, i'll wager you guys don't use nearly as much gas as we do. The majority of the US has no mass transportation, and where people live, and where people work are far flung. We are VERY dependant on our cars here. Lets be clear. If you don't have a car, you cannot go to work.

Right now, i live 27 miles from work. So i drive 54 miles a day. Thats not bad. I used to live 37 miles from work, and driving 74 miles a day. The company i work for is planning on moving another 15 miles south of where it currently is. I am not looking forward to driving 42 miles to work, and driving 84 miles per day.

I live where I live because it is affordable. Picking up and moving to certain locales closer to work is out of the question when due to rent increases that would add another 500 to 900 dollars on top of what im already paying.

Subway's? In New york maybe.
Buses? Thats laughable. They either do not run where you need to go, or have a route that adds 4 hours to a one way commute.
Commuter trains? Not always an option, their existance is relatively new. From where i work and where i live, this is NOT an option, nor is a buss.

That leaves cars.
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Then I guess it's well nigh near the time to lobby those you elect and get them to implement a feasible transportation infrastructure don't you think....after all you are the richest economy on the planet.




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feasible transportation infrastructure don't you think....after all you are the richest economy on the planet.
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The irony is our infrastructure is crumbling. In some areas in the US, electrical and sewage services are on par with a 2nd or 3rd world nation.
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The irony is our infrastructure is crumbling. In some areas in the US, electrical and sewage services are on par with a 2nd or 3rd world nation.
Is that because they (the powers to be), transferred 600k dollars from the sewer fund to build bike paths?


....and then complained that the sewer fund is low?

That's par for the course in portland.

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More then a normal state. Whatever your paying, its 10 cents more in california, at the very least. The reasons because the smog gestapo here demands a cleaner formula.

The end result is the oil companies price gouging, whenever someone sneezes in the middle east, all the more painful.

And yeah, given their profits, i see no justification for the prices other then pure corporate GREED. I mean seriously, are they using Libya as their excuse this time? I'm not "buying" that excuse, not for one freaking minute.
Wait until it reaches $5 a gallon by summer. The oil corps are loving this.
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Wait until it reaches $5 a gallon by summer. The oil corps are loving this.
You know, i really wish the impeding crash would just happen already, cause at least then i would not be wondering about the future anymore with this sense of impending doom. At least that's the impression I have, that the economy is just sitting there, dangeling by a thin thread, and all it takes is a good gust of wind to send it all crashing down. I don't think its a question of If, but when. High cost of gas could do that. That goes up, and it will send everything else spiraling out of control until the "Great Recession" turns into the "Great Depression version 2.0".
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I took these photo's just 20 minutes ago.


Monthly expenditures are definately going up. What worries me in the long term is what the new gas price will be fixed at after Big Oil runs out of excuses. Gas prices will probably drop in the future, but they'll be higher then what they were before. Im guessing it will probably go down to 3.50 or 3.75 after all's said and done. I HIGHLY doublt we'll see it go back down to the 3.20 to 3.30 it was before. Why do i expect that? cause its what the big oil exec's did to everybody before. no reason to not expect them to dick us over again. Yeah I realize that oil production has peaked, but i cannot see how prices are justfied so long as Oil is turning BILLIONS in pure unadulterated profit.

edit: Oh and BTW, this is the cheap station in my area. The other stations usually charge 5 to 10 cents more.


More important then unleaded, is Diesal! Cost of foods, goods, and services should be going up soon.

I wonder where it will peak at. In an odd way, i hope its 5 dollars, or more!. Maybe that will get enough people bitching at the politicians to reign in those greedy bastards.


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Oh here's a fun fact. Of my 8 hour work day today, 3 of them just went into my gas tank.

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€1.593 Unlead 95; €1.725 Unlead 98; €1.443 Diesel; €1.515 Diesel+; €0.826 GPL (gas) per litre.
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The taxes on Diesel are very high.

Would people be in favour of a separate tax for commercial use of diesel and a separate tax on Passenger car diesel?

Diesel technology has many advantages. Personally, I like the idea of a passenger car that has a Diesel-electric series powertrain.

I wonder how many people would buy a diesel car if the taxes were more aligned with what people bay for MoGas?
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