Julian Assange arrested (merged) - Page 5

krashkart · 12-04-10, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

News Flash: A crate load of Viagra has been stolen from a distribution warehouse - police are looking for hardened criminals.

Hospitals in the region have been asked to be on the lookout for unusual cases of priapism. If your erection lasts for more than four hours, please seek immediate medical help.

Molon Labe · 12-04-10, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Actually I'm even more interested in how this contract thing would work out in sexual encounters. Especially the compensation part. I've been pretty lucky lately, but in my younger years... I mean, if I had a nickel for every time some dude decided we were done before I was completely satisfied...

I knew I should have paid more attention to the lecture on 'liquidated damages clauses.'

Jimbuna · 12-04-10, 08:24 AM

Confucius say: "Man who confuse constipation pills for Viagra, crap in bed"

frau kaleun · 12-04-10, 11:35 AM

@ ... well, everybody:

krashkart · 12-04-10, 07:33 PM

Any bets on if/when Assange gets the royal butt-kicking? I'll chip in a used Berg adaptor for "uhhh... i'unno"

Capt. Morgan · 12-05-10, 03:04 AM

I figure he'll get it in spring of 2011, when he's planning to release several gigs worth of Bank of America e-mails. Messing with United States is one thing, but messing with a bank is really serious.

heartc · 12-05-10, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Morgan

I figure he'll get it in spring of 2011, when he's planning to release several gigs worth of Bank of America e-mails. Messing with United States is one thing, but messing with a bank is really serious.

I was thinking the exact same thing when I heard the news a few days ago. And I'm not even sure if I was joking to myself or not.

(BTW, afaik the bank has not yet been identified. Just for the record.)

Skybird · 12-05-10, 06:26 AM

This German essay , entitled "The loneliness of a superpower", sees it slightly different, saying that although the leak is a diplomatic disaster, it reveals how much healthy reason the diplomatic service of the United States is revealing in its assessements, even if officially these assessements are lied about. It also shows how sensibly and carefully and often cleverly the US is acting in world policies, in the background, and that the world without the US's attempts without doubt would be a much worse place. Finally it is pointed out that the American diplomatic assessments often seem to collide with the much more self-decepting assessements by the Europeans, an example given in the form of Turkey that many Europeans tend to see as a great chance for the EU while the US already rates it as an islamistic regime falling into the realm of ultra-fundamentalists that do openly desire for the destruction of European value culture and takeover of Europe by Osman empire 2.0.

In general the essay says the reveleations by wikileaks for the most are a compliment for the healthy reason of the US diplomatic service. I have sympathy for that view, although there are obviously exceptions from the rule..

I do not have so much problems with most of the leaked revelations by content. I only wish and demand that official policies would be more in consistency with these. Transparency is what it is about. And if that sends a message of the US/ther West using tougher policies, then this would send a message to the international bullies. At least a more powerful message than the endless appeasement attempts of the Europeans who always talk soft and nice even when getting spit in their faces. No reliable principles, no spine, its own rules opportunistically manipulated whenever it sees fit
- that is the EU.

TLAM Strike · 12-05-10, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Actually I'm even more interested in how this contract thing would work out in sexual encounters. Especially the compensation part. I've been pretty lucky lately, but in my younger years... I mean, if I had a nickel for every time some dude decided we were done before I was completely satisfied...

I'm sure there is a clause: "What one head starts the other head must finish."

Jimbuna · 12-05-10, 02:48 PM

Following the latest publication of secret US government documents, the founder of Wikileaks has been given just 6 weeks to live.

Never mind Julian, they said that about Bin Laden nine years ago.

the_tyrant · 12-05-10, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Following the latest publication of secret US government documents, the founder of Wikileaks has been given just 6 weeks to live.

Never mind Julian, they said that about Bin Laden nine years ago.

Bin Laden lives in a cave, and only the US is after him
Julian needs the internet, and interpol is after him

I give him 6 months

August · 12-05-10, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Following the latest publication of secret US government documents, the founder of Wikileaks has been given just 6 weeks to live.

Never mind Julian, they said that about Bin Laden nine years ago.

He's got nothing to fear from the law ridden US government who can't even keep a presidential bj a secret.

Khadaffi and Putin on the other hand. Now those are guys I wouldn't want to give a reason to personally dislike me...

Skybird · 12-05-10, 03:27 PM

He may not need to fear laws for his publishing (that alone is not illegal), but he needs to fear a hit order by any secret agency, he also needs to fear to get gagged over constructed charges, like those rape allegations. It is highly suspicious that the Swedish authorities have ordered thsat once they got him he is to be isolated, denied access to a lawyer, kept in a secret place - is that the usual Swedish procedure for interrogation a suspect (not a proven guilty man), while the two women meanwhile have published their boasting comments on how they sexually "conquerred" Assange? German media referred to such reports some days ago.

Meanwhile, a former German employee who separated from Assange in anger, has embarked on lauching his own leak website - and two other such projects are being prepared. I hope it will not only be the US being tragetted,m but the EU and Brussels as well. I am sure there is so much dirt to be found in the EU's inner procedures and backstage-events...

The website wikileaks has been mirrored on so far almost 80 different servers, after Wikileaks called for help to safe the data from being taken off the web via cyberwar-mass attacks and companies quitting contracts with Wikileaks. They called for at least 50 voluntary mirrors on Sunday morning, but in the late evening already had close to 80 voluntaries harboring the complete Wikileaks data now. So this side of the cyberwar seems to have been won by Wikileaks - by overwhelming masses. the only way to defeat the internet is - to switch it off completely.

Capt. Morgan · 12-05-10, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

...Finally it is pointed out that the American diplomatic assessments often seem to collide with the much more self-decepting assessements by the Europeans, ...

It would be tremendously intersting to read some European diplomatic cables and see how well they conform to their nations public stance. I'm willing to bet that they privately agree on a great many more points than they do in public.

Quote:

...I do not have so much problems with most of the leaked revelations by content. I only wish and demand that official policies would be more in consistency with these.....

I have no problems with it either. It's kind of like having everyone stop and turn over their cards in the middle of an especially tense poker hand.

These revelations have certainly changed the game - and I'd say for the better - a dose of truth right now might help the NATO nations make some decisions based on expediency rather then political maneuvering back home.

It's also interesting that immediately after their release, Obama made a surprise visit to Afghanistan, where he thanked Ambassador Karl Eikenberry for his work and cancelled a planned visit with Karzai.

I am sincerely hoping that the next le Carré is presently combing through these cables for material.

============

Quote:

Originally Posted by heartc

...
(BTW, afaik the bank has not yet been identified. Just for the record.)

Yes, you're right. Assange mentioned that he has a lot of Bank of America material, but has repeatedly refused to state that this material will be the content of his up-coming bank realease.

Personally I am looking forward to this release more than any other, and I was also half-joking about this release being the ultimate cause of his demise.

Jimbuna · 12-05-10, 04:16 PM

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape.

Thats one bit of news he wouldnt want leaked.

12-04-10, 08:24 AM	#63
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,591 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Confucius say: "Man who confuse constipation pills for Viagra, crap in bed" __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-05-10, 03:04 AM	#66
Capt. Morgan Commander Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Just east of the west coast. Posts: 463 Downloads: 423 Uploads: 0	I figure he'll get it in spring of 2011, when he's planning to release several gigs worth of Bank of America e-mails. Messing with United States is one thing, but messing with a bank is really serious. __________________ There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet. -- Admiral William Halsey

12-05-10, 06:26 AM	#68
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,647 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	This German essay , entitled "The loneliness of a superpower", sees it slightly different, saying that although the leak is a diplomatic disaster, it reveals how much healthy reason the diplomatic service of the United States is revealing in its assessements, even if officially these assessements are lied about. It also shows how sensibly and carefully and often cleverly the US is acting in world policies, in the background, and that the world without the US's attempts without doubt would be a much worse place. Finally it is pointed out that the American diplomatic assessments often seem to collide with the much more self-decepting assessements by the Europeans, an example given in the form of Turkey that many Europeans tend to see as a great chance for the EU while the US already rates it as an islamistic regime falling into the realm of ultra-fundamentalists that do openly desire for the destruction of European value culture and takeover of Europe by Osman empire 2.0. In general the essay says the reveleations by wikileaks for the most are a compliment for the healthy reason of the US diplomatic service. I have sympathy for that view, although there are obviously exceptions from the rule.. I do not have so much problems with most of the leaked revelations by content. I only wish and demand that official policies would be more in consistency with these. Transparency is what it is about. And if that sends a message of the US/ther West using tougher policies, then this would send a message to the international bullies. At least a more powerful message than the endless appeasement attempts of the Europeans who always talk soft and nice even when getting spit in their faces. No reliable principles, no spine, its own rules opportunistically manipulated whenever it sees fit - that is the EU. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-05-10, 02:48 PM	#70
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,591 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Following the latest publication of secret US government documents, the founder of Wikileaks has been given just 6 weeks to live. Never mind Julian, they said that about Bin Laden nine years ago. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-05-10, 03:27 PM	#73
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,647 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	He may not need to fear laws for his publishing (that alone is not illegal), but he needs to fear a hit order by any secret agency, he also needs to fear to get gagged over constructed charges, like those rape allegations. It is highly suspicious that the Swedish authorities have ordered thsat once they got him he is to be isolated, denied access to a lawyer, kept in a secret place - is that the usual Swedish procedure for interrogation a suspect (not a proven guilty man), while the two women meanwhile have published their boasting comments on how they sexually "conquerred" Assange? German media referred to such reports some days ago. Meanwhile, a former German employee who separated from Assange in anger, has embarked on lauching his own leak website - and two other such projects are being prepared. I hope it will not only be the US being tragetted,m but the EU and Brussels as well. I am sure there is so much dirt to be found in the EU's inner procedures and backstage-events... The website wikileaks has been mirrored on so far almost 80 different servers, after Wikileaks called for help to safe the data from being taken off the web via cyberwar-mass attacks and companies quitting contracts with Wikileaks. They called for at least 50 voluntary mirrors on Sunday morning, but in the late evening already had close to 80 voluntaries harboring the complete Wikileaks data now. So this side of the cyberwar seems to have been won by Wikileaks - by overwhelming masses. the only way to defeat the internet is - to switch it off completely. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 12-05-10 at 03:55 PM.

12-04-10, 11:35 AM	#64
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	@ ... well, everybody:

12-04-10, 07:33 PM	#65
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Any bets on if/when Assange gets the royal butt-kicking? I'll chip in a used Berg adaptor for "uhhh... i'unno"

12-05-10, 04:16 PM	#75
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,591 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Wikileaks founder Julian Assange accused of rape. Thats one bit of news he wouldnt want leaked. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!