Why all the Obama hatred?

[Torvald Von Mansee]

It seems to me the deep, visceral hatred of Obama by some people is out of all proportion to what he's done and tried to do. I'm pretty sure I know why, but do any of you have any further theories?

[krashkart]

Heh. I've plenty of popcorn.

I have a theory that the economy being as it is has people stressed out enough that we have no other recourse but to blame the administration. Add to that a deep-seated resentment and mistrust for the government that has built up over the last eight or nine years. I think people are just plain fed up, regardless of who they vote for. Who better to blame than the guy in charge?

[GoldenRivet]

Hate is a strong word.

Dislike may be more appropriate. Personally I dislike what Obama represents.

1. Overwhelmingly condescending stature toward his opposition.

2. He is a socialist who insists that the government can run my life better than I can.

3. He is a welfare president who would sell out 260 million Americans to address the needs of 40 million Americans.

4. His ram it down our throat, hurry up and get it passed before anyone notices the BS approach to the legislative process.

5. General disagreement with his stance on virtually all the issues facing our nation. (not all... Virtually all)

6. His foriegn policy as skybird pointed out is too far a radical departure from the last several years for a lot of Americans to swallow.


I could go on and on.

[GoldenRivet]

@TVM

you say you have a feeling why.

Since your finger is apparently so tightly placed upon the pulse of America, perhaps you could share your opinion?

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I could go on and on.

So could I, but about George W Bush Im afraid.

Originally Posted by krashkart

Heh. I've plenty of popcorn.

I have a theory that the economy being as it is has people stressed out enough that we have no other recourse but to blame the administration. Add to that a deep-seated resentment and mistrust for the government that has built up over the last eight or nine years. I think people are just plain fed up, regardless of who they vote for. Who better to blame than the guy in charge?

Ditto, most of the subsimmers here in General topics appear to be Right wing / Conservatives / Republican in there political views.
So its pretty much a given that they dislike Obama -who is more of a leftist than say Clinton was.
Just depends on how you are wired. I personally cant stand the likes of Bush and Cheney... and Sarah Palin scares the hell out of me too.
So its not hard for me to understand their point of view - its simply the reverse of my own, thats all.

[GoldenRivet]

Yet, I never really disapproved of Clinton myself.

I think Obama has his fair share of supporters here at subsim.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Yet, I never really disapproved of Clinton myself.

I think Obama has his fair share of supporters here at subsim.

Yeah - I think you hit the nail on the head in your first post GR, I too reckon it has alot to do with Obama and Bush being at rather extreme opposite ends of the spectrum
(on so many levels)

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Ditto, most of the subsimmers here in General topics appear to be Right wing / Conservatives / Republican in there political views.
So its pretty much a given that they dislike Obama -who is more of a leftist than say Clinton was.

Bingo.
I'd just rather all the hate was confined to one topic instead of spreading out like a weed across the entire damn General Topics forum. Then again, I guess things would get too quiet except for the odd anti-Muslim thread although they've dried up a fair bit since the Avon Lady left.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by JU_88

and Sarah Palin scares the hell out of me too.

Rest assured!!

Take a look at the Beehive beauty shop

(from 03:15 to 06:30)

Well he's better then having McCain as president thats for sure, and he is definitely better then the very prospect of having that idiot Palin as president.

However... Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, moderates, radicals... they all suck.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Hate is a strong word.

Dislike may be more appropriate. Personally I dislike what Obama represents.

1. Overwhelmingly condescending stature toward his opposition.

2. He is a socialist who insists that the government can run my life better than I can.

3. He is a welfare president who would sell out 260 million Americans to address the needs of 40 million Americans.

4. His ram it down our throat, hurry up and get it passed before anyone notices the BS approach to the legislative process.

5. General disagreement with his stance on virtually all the issues facing our nation. (not all... Virtually all)

6. His foriegn policy as skybird pointed out is too far a radical departure from the last several years for a lot of Americans to swallow.


I could go on and on.

You forgot, he's neutering NASA and the US space program.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

You forgot, he's neutering NASA and the US space program.

7. De-balling NASA and the US Space Program.

[GoldenRivet]

Speaking of Anchor Babies

My dad worked in the Southwest as a CRNA for childbirth cases.

he worked there for about 18 months, and he says, on average... they delivered 300 of these anchor babies per month.

300

one town

on average

PER MONTH

[tater]

I have to admit, for a guy who promised transparency, and that the entire healthcare debate would be bipartisan, and televised, the move to do virtually all of it behind closed doors, with payoffs to buy votes, and every effort to ram it through with as little discussion (and no time for any lawmaker to possibly have read the bill) pissed me off beyond any possible reconciliation.

If he does something I agree with I will happily give him props on it. But in general, the current congress/executive combo is despicable, IMO, for no other reason than ramming stuff through.

If they had decent rules like "one idea, one bill" combined with a requirement of X days debate (on the record) per page of bill, we'd all be better off.

[Skybird]

1. Many Republicans take it as a natural rule that Republicans should win elections for the presidency. If they don't, it is a very deep offence, hitting them at their very basic self-understanding.

2. No matter whether he realised his plans or not, many of his very plans themselves are so unfamiliar and distant from what Americans are used to define as "American political goals" that this is perceived as Obama setting himself outside an "American" context.

3. The high heap of bills and debts Obama has collected on his desktop, does not make him many friends. The Fed is powerless by now. just printing always new more money, is no solution. The debts of the Us already were a disaster before Obama - but he additionally contributed substantially to their total ammount.

4. But all that does not create the stimuli he promised and hoped for when he introduced his spending frenzy. No economic spring. No job miracle. Instead new dark clouds at the horizon, coming closer.

5. His foreign policy changes back and forth between lacking orientation and lacking realism, and heavily biased islamophilia.

And 6.), maybe the most general but still most important point: he has risen so high and so many expectations that he now necessarily falls even deeper. If you raise so stellar expecations, you must fail to meet them necessarily, and then the disappointment necessarily is the bigger.

Obama's misery is pretty much self-made, I think. And I think it is FUBAR. Upcoming elections for congress most likely will show it. I think the Dems will suffer dearly.