2010 Formula 1 Championship - Page 5

Konovalov · 04-04-10, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

I dont understand why Lewis was not slapped for his zig-zagging though, its a clear rule that you can only change lane once while defending.

I think he was warned for it. The whole thing looked quite funny between Lewis and Petrov. Lewis must have moved from one side of the track to the other at least three or four times.

XabbaRus · 04-04-10, 03:07 PM

I don't see what the big deal is. In fact it isn't a rule but an agreement as I understand it.

Hell it makes for the spectacle and isn't that what people want?

Also there is the argument in that he was trying to break the tow Petrov was getting and wasn't defending a line into the corner therefore not punishable.

TheBrauerHour · 04-04-10, 09:55 PM

I thought he was trying to break the tow as well. I would have liked to see Petrov get by Lewis, but a penalty would be a bit much.

Great finish for Kubica and Sutil. I was so pleased to see some of the second tier teams being so racey. Poor luck for Alonso, He should be commended for driving so well without the engine breaking.

Konovalov · 04-05-10, 11:02 AM

Well I never had a problem with the weaving. It wasn't in the braking zone for a start. Secondly they were the only two cars on that part of the track. Not sure how it can be deemed dangerous and worthy of a warning. What are you meant to do? Just sit there and take it up the backside while your opponent behind gets the tow and slips right past. So fair play to Lewis as far as i'm concerned. As I said, it was quite funny to watch and a little like GP2 which is no surprise as both drivers raced in GP2 in the past.

Nicolas · 04-05-10, 07:43 PM

Hamilton funny doing that, but its against the rules. Most drivers think he should be penalized

Former Super Aguri driver Anthony Davidson told BBC radio: "I don't know what Lewis was doing, weaving all over the track. I think he thought he was playing a Playstation rather than real life."

Jimbuna · 04-05-10, 07:45 PM

Well whatever he was trying to achieve it worked

Konovalov · 04-06-10, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicolas

Hamilton funny doing that, but its against the rules. Most drivers think he should be penalized

Former Super Aguri driver Anthony Davidson told BBC radio: "I don't know what Lewis was doing, weaving all over the track. I think he thought he was playing a Playstation rather than real life."

Firstly it wasn't in the braking zone so I'm not sure which rules he broke. Do we want racing or not in F1?

Anthony Davidson would know all about driving on the playstation because he can't get a drive in F1.

Nicolas · 04-06-10, 03:26 PM

No really, i dont know if it is a written rule, but seriously that is not legal, i want to watch good races of course, be sure Hamilton wont do this anymore.

I found this sorry for the long text:

Hamilton was given a black-and-white flag for this incident, but should he have been penalised further, or not at all?

Hamilton claims he was weaving to “break the tow”, but Renault are not happy. Team boss Eric Bouiller says:

“Very frankly, it is very clear in the regulations that you can have one change of direction, so when you do three in a row something is wrong.
“He got a warning for dangerous driving, but I am not sure it is enough. It is definitely clearly written in the regulations that you can not do any more than one direction change, and it is something you should not be doing.”
Eric Bouiller

In defence of Hamilton, if you look at the video above he swerved from side-to-side and Petrov followed each time. Hamilton doesn’t appear to be blocking an overtake from Petrov as it was the Brit making the move first. However, it would be very hard for the Russian to make an overtaking move while Hamilton was veering to each side of the track.
As Eric Boullier says, you are allowed 1 change of direction when attempting to block an overtake, and while Hamilton wasn’t necessarily trying to block an overtake, he was still weaving to try and break the slipstream. The real question in this case has to be therefore: how many times is a driver allowed to weave across the track to break the tow? Surely it should be the same as the allowed number to try to block an overtake.
I believe that Hamilton deserved a harsher penalty than what he got. Not only is attepting to break the tow dangerous, it spoils the racing by not letting the driver behind have a decent passing opportunity, and the ‘one change of direction’ rule has to be strictly enforced.

XabbaRus · 04-06-10, 03:45 PM

Let them weave as much as they want as long as they are not endangering each other or other drivers.

There driving was very current GP2. Not surprising given they were in GP2.

It looked good.

HunterICX · 04-16-10, 03:18 AM

Sebastien Buemi loses both front tires in the first free training on the circuit of China

how bizarre, both just pop off like that.

HunterICX

Schroeder · 04-16-10, 03:33 AM

I've never seen anything like that before.

XabbaRus · 04-16-10, 04:07 AM

Yea, like a circus car....Red Bull and Torro Rosso both have had wheel failures...

Lucky it happened on the straight.

stabiz · 04-16-10, 06:58 AM

What the ...?

Jimbuna · 04-16-10, 08:34 AM

Incredible....had to be seen to be believed

Dowly · 04-16-10, 08:34 AM

Whoa!

04-04-10, 03:07 PM	#62
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I don't see what the big deal is. In fact it isn't a rule but an agreement as I understand it. Hell it makes for the spectacle and isn't that what people want? Also there is the argument in that he was trying to break the tow Petrov was getting and wasn't defending a line into the corner therefore not punishable. __________________

04-05-10, 11:02 AM	#64
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Well I never had a problem with the weaving. It wasn't in the braking zone for a start. Secondly they were the only two cars on that part of the track. Not sure how it can be deemed dangerous and worthy of a warning. What are you meant to do? Just sit there and take it up the backside while your opponent behind gets the tow and slips right past. So fair play to Lewis as far as i'm concerned. As I said, it was quite funny to watch and a little like GP2 which is no surprise as both drivers raced in GP2 in the past. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

04-05-10, 07:45 PM	#66
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Well whatever he was trying to achieve it worked __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

04-06-10, 03:26 PM	#68
Nicolas Commander Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Uruguay Posts: 453 Downloads: 196 Uploads: 4	No really, i dont know if it is a written rule, but seriously that is not legal, i want to watch good races of course, be sure Hamilton wont do this anymore. I found this sorry for the long text: Hamilton was given a black-and-white flag for this incident, but should he have been penalised further, or not at all? Hamilton claims he was weaving to “break the tow”, but Renault are not happy. Team boss Eric Bouiller says: “Very frankly, it is very clear in the regulations that you can have one change of direction, so when you do three in a row something is wrong. “He got a warning for dangerous driving, but I am not sure it is enough. It is definitely clearly written in the regulations that you can not do any more than one direction change, and it is something you should not be doing.” Eric Bouiller In defence of Hamilton, if you look at the video above he swerved from side-to-side and Petrov followed each time. Hamilton doesn’t appear to be blocking an overtake from Petrov as it was the Brit making the move first. However, it would be very hard for the Russian to make an overtaking move while Hamilton was veering to each side of the track. As Eric Boullier says, you are allowed 1 change of direction when attempting to block an overtake, and while Hamilton wasn’t necessarily trying to block an overtake, he was still weaving to try and break the slipstream. The real question in this case has to be therefore: how many times is a driver allowed to weave across the track to break the tow? Surely it should be the same as the allowed number to try to block an overtake. I believe that Hamilton deserved a harsher penalty than what he got. Not only is attepting to break the tow dangerous, it spoils the racing by not letting the driver behind have a decent passing opportunity, and the ‘one change of direction’ rule has to be strictly enforced.

04-06-10, 03:45 PM	#69
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Let them weave as much as they want as long as they are not endangering each other or other drivers. There driving was very current GP2. Not surprising given they were in GP2. It looked good. __________________

04-04-10, 09:55 PM	#63
TheBrauerHour Mr. Eastwood Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 364 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	I thought he was trying to break the tow as well. I would have liked to see Petrov get by Lewis, but a penalty would be a bit much. Great finish for Kubica and Sutil. I was so pleased to see some of the second tier teams being so racey. Poor luck for Alonso, He should be commended for driving so well without the engine breaking.

04-05-10, 07:43 PM	#65
Nicolas Commander Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Uruguay Posts: 453 Downloads: 196 Uploads: 4	Hamilton funny doing that, but its against the rules. Most drivers think he should be penalized Former Super Aguri driver Anthony Davidson told BBC radio: "I don't know what Lewis was doing, weaving all over the track. I think he thought he was playing a Playstation rather than real life."

04-16-10, 03:18 AM	#70
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Sebastien Buemi loses both front tires in the first free training on the circuit of China how bizarre, both just pop off like that. HunterICX __________________

04-16-10, 03:33 AM	#71
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	I've never seen anything like that before. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

04-16-10, 04:07 AM	#72
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Yea, like a circus car....Red Bull and Torro Rosso both have had wheel failures... Lucky it happened on the straight. __________________

04-16-10, 06:58 AM	#73
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	What the ...? __________________

04-16-10, 08:34 AM	#74
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Incredible....had to be seen to be believed __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

04-16-10, 08:34 AM	#75
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Whoa!