SH IV...any reason to buy? - Page 5

Task Force · 01-11-09, 07:23 PM

Sh4 is ok, but performance for me drops about 100FPS in sh4, im getting 180+ fps with the 16km environments, and 200+ FPS (sometimes around 300. FPS) without.

XLjedi · 01-11-09, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by StarLion45

I don't know why people says SHIV have better graphics

I am totally agree with BBW that says it looks like cartoon

Respectfully... I just don't see an argument here.

Maybe by better graphics people are assuming you turn on/off various items, or install certain mods that improve the ocean. ...or maybe it's the real 3D damage modelling?

I just don't see where the "cartoon" label fits (even in the stock version). ...and I'm a long time SH3/GWX fan.

I'm only playing the stock SH4 at the moment and I would agree that the sky and ocean looks a little goofy. But I haven't seen anything (yet) that warrants a "cartoon" label.

I assume I can fix the ocean/sky with a mod or two...

ReallyDedPoet · 01-11-09, 07:25 PM

SH4 Water in the beginning ( early stock ) was just fair, especially storm conditions, but modders have done wonders with it.

RDP

Weiss Pinguin · 01-11-09, 09:09 PM

Wow

StarLion45 · 01-12-09, 12:51 AM

Jesus!!!!!!!!

What a sea!!!!

Ping Panther · 01-12-09, 09:50 AM

I had bought a disk of SH4 just about the moment when it first came out. I loaded it in and had some pretty good frame rates, yet it looked very filtered over, almost hazey/pixellated (not speaking of in-game effects settings) to the point that it felt very "distant" to interact with. So, I had uninstalled SH4 soon after. Back to SH3/GWX3 & loving it all.

Just this past weekend, I had decided to make an adjustment to my system & give SH4 another install and try. Along the way I had heard for a while that ATI cards often suffer from the effects of their own Catalyst Control Center. So, with this potential problem in mind, I went ahead and cleaned out the CCC from my system. Following a registry clean, I re-installed my old SH4, defragged disk, etc. WOW! ~

I am bound for the Pacific fleet!

mookiemookie · 01-12-09, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ping Panther

I had bought a disk of SH4 just about the moment when it first came out. I loaded it in and had some pretty good frame rates, yet it looked very filtered over, almost hazey/pixellated (not speaking of in-game effects settings) to the point that it felt very "distant" to interact with. So, I had uninstalled SH4 soon after. Back to SH3/GWX3 & loving it all.

Just this past weekend, I had decided to make an adjustment to my system & give SH4 another install and try. Along the way I had heard for a while that ATI cards often suffer from the effects of their own Catalyst Control Center. So, with this potential problem in mind, I went ahead and cleaned out the CCC from my system. Following a registry clean, I re-installed my old SH4, defragged disk, etc. WOW! ~

I am bound for the Pacific fleet!

That could also be the post processing effects option in SH4. For some reason it added this grainy movie like look to the game. Most of the supermods remove it, but here's a standalone mod for it: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ost+processing

piri_reis · 01-12-09, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by StarLion45

Jesus!!!!!!!!

What a sea!!!!

It's a screenshot game. The sea is just beautiful in those shots, but in the game it moves like jelly. Not even close to looking natural, the older generation SH3 water right now looks a lot better to me. (Perhaps its my gfx card..)

Ping Panther · 01-12-09, 10:49 AM

Thanks mookie, I will take a look at that thread.

I have a nice, super crisp view and gameplay already since my ATI CCC adjustment/removal. I will look forward to adding PE4, etc., very soon. As far as that SH4 post-process checkbox goes, that's just too much effect fuss for real patrols.

AVGWarhawk · 01-12-09, 10:58 AM

Cartoony?

The crew looks cartoony. I can't argue there. Everything else that has been modded...you tell me how this pic looks. I do not spend my time looking at my crew so the cartoon guys don't matter to me. They do look better than the chiseled crew in SH3. Just a matter of taste I guess.

StarLion45 · 01-12-09, 11:36 AM

The sea where your ship breaking in half , are still looking ugly

Sorry.
No seas shining like that

In the 2nd picture the sea looks like oilpainting , terrible .

I can't understand and figure out , what ubisoft was thinking , when they make the SH4

Sorry , but the sea look really strange . I live by the sea in Norway , and it sure
doesn't look like that

I'm not convinced

Fincuan · 01-12-09, 12:04 PM

StarLion, just google water+sun and look at some of the pics. The Norvegian water might be different, but the water elsewhere sure seems to do that.

StarLion45 · 01-12-09, 12:17 PM

Eeeh uh

:p

:rotfl:

Weiss Pinguin · 01-12-09, 01:06 PM

I know the feeling Starlion :rotfl:

Carotio · 01-12-09, 01:31 PM

Norway is not that far away from Denmark, so I enclose some of my own photos made in the end of June from about 7-10 in the evening. And I think that the current environmental mods for SH4 catches that view pretty well, given the circumstance that it's still just a game, and not total realistic. But still, I think it looks far more real than SH3 ever did.
Of course, pc hardware has something to do with the view as well. Having had a top notch high end pc for the last 2 years does the trick for me.

However, it sometimes feels against all odds to discuss opinions with someone from the opposite view...

01-11-09, 07:23 PM	#61
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Sh4 is ok, but performance for me drops about 100FPS in sh4, im getting 180+ fps with the 16km environments, and 200+ FPS (sometimes around 300. FPS) without. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

01-11-09, 07:25 PM	#63
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,885 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	SH4 Water in the beginning ( early stock ) was just fair, especially storm conditions, but modders have done wonders with it. RDP __________________ Back in the Day

01-11-09, 09:09 PM	#64
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Wow __________________

01-12-09, 12:51 AM	#65
StarLion45 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stavanger,Norway Posts: 895 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	W............!!!!!! Jesus!!!!!!!! What a sea!!!!

01-12-09, 10:58 AM	#70
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,254 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Cartoony? The crew looks cartoony. I can't argue there. Everything else that has been modded...you tell me how this pic looks. I do not spend my time looking at my crew so the cartoon guys don't matter to me. They do look better than the chiseled crew in SH3. Just a matter of taste I guess. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-12-09, 09:50 AM	#66
Ping Panther Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: the armpit of the Mid-Atlantic / Quadrant CA42 Posts: 262 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I had bought a disk of SH4 just about the moment when it first came out. I loaded it in and had some pretty good frame rates, yet it looked very filtered over, almost hazey/pixellated (not speaking of in-game effects settings) to the point that it felt very "distant" to interact with. So, I had uninstalled SH4 soon after. Back to SH3/GWX3 & loving it all. Just this past weekend, I had decided to make an adjustment to my system & give SH4 another install and try. Along the way I had heard for a while that ATI cards often suffer from the effects of their own Catalyst Control Center. So, with this potential problem in mind, I went ahead and cleaned out the CCC from my system. Following a registry clean, I re-installed my old SH4, defragged disk, etc. WOW! ~ I am bound for the Pacific fleet!

01-12-09, 10:49 AM	#69
Ping Panther Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: the armpit of the Mid-Atlantic / Quadrant CA42 Posts: 262 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Thanks mookie, I will take a look at that thread. I have a nice, super crisp view and gameplay already since my ATI CCC adjustment/removal. I will look forward to adding PE4, etc., very soon. As far as that SH4 post-process checkbox goes, that's just too much effect fuss for real patrols.

01-12-09, 11:36 AM	#71
StarLion45 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stavanger,Norway Posts: 895 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	AVGWarhawk The sea where your ship breaking in half , are still looking ugly Sorry. No seas shining like that In the 2nd picture the sea looks like oilpainting , terrible . I can't understand and figure out , what ubisoft was thinking , when they make the SH4 Sorry , but the sea look really strange . I live by the sea in Norway , and it sure doesn't look like that I'm not convinced

01-12-09, 12:04 PM	#72
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	StarLion, just google water+sun and look at some of the pics. The Norvegian water might be different, but the water elsewhere sure seems to do that.

01-12-09, 12:17 PM	#73
StarLion45 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stavanger,Norway Posts: 895 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	You're right Fincuan Eeeh uh :p :rotfl:

01-12-09, 01:06 PM	#74
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	I know the feeling Starlion :rotfl: __________________

01-12-09, 01:31 PM	#75
Carotio Mr. Bad Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aabenraa, Denmark Posts: 1,488 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Norway is not that far away from Denmark, so I enclose some of my own photos made in the end of June from about 7-10 in the evening. And I think that the current environmental mods for SH4 catches that view pretty well, given the circumstance that it's still just a game, and not total realistic. But still, I think it looks far more real than SH3 ever did. Of course, pc hardware has something to do with the view as well. Having had a top notch high end pc for the last 2 years does the trick for me. However, it sometimes feels against all odds to discuss opinions with someone from the opposite view... __________________ Download my mods from SHMF Follow my photography here taler dansk, speak English, spreche Deutsch, parle français, forstår svenska/norsk, comprendo castellano