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Old 12-13-08, 05:32 PM   #61
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Dont worry, Steve. I liked Dark Blue World abit too.
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Old 12-14-08, 03:22 AM   #62
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Dont worry, Steve. I liked Dark Blue World abit too.
Aye...all the nudity bits
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Old 12-15-08, 01:19 PM   #63
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The only issue I have is that I find it very hard to believe that a hardened, experienced crew under an expert Kaleun would be shrieking, yelling and rolling about the deck of a sub while it was under attack. Most accounts I have read describe a very different scene.
From what I gathered from the BBC show I mentioned earlier, the cameraman said that the goal was to make the audience think it was the crew's first patrol. Not for all of them, but many.

A quote out of my memory of what he said

"The crew was all young men, in their 20´s. Young men who had never seen the war and now they were sent to war in a metal tube."

I never really though about it before, but after the show, it's quite obvious. Alot of the crew are nervous pretty much from the point they leave the harbour to the point they return. Take the test dive scene for one, I'd think an experienced crew would've had no problem with that. They'd know what their boat was capable of. :hmm:
And the 'Old Man' tells the correspondent right at the beginning that most of them are 'babies', lacking experience.
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Old 12-16-08, 07:20 AM   #64
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Ya ya, excuses!
Lol... if you need proof, you'll notice that I edited my post to include the reference to you :P . Anyway, my job is to ensure some people still post on the forums and not spend their lives glued to Arma .

Btw, this youtube movie (fairly old but brilliantly done) brings back some good old memories of Das Boot. And all of this was done using Silent Hunter 3. This one features the surface attack on the convoy depicted in the movie.

This makes me wish that your crew grew beards... instead of starting off with massive full beards.
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Old 12-16-08, 06:02 PM   #65
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The film "Das Boot" still the best of the best of is kind...
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Old 12-17-08, 12:41 PM   #66
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Proud to announce I finally grabbed the movie..
After a long search(over a year) in shops.. Trying to buy it.. My search ended with one friend burned it for me.. :rotfl:

Didn't know there are two versions of the movie?
Short-long or directors cut-uncut?

I had the version where that naughty nazi lieutenant goes to search for medical officer , sees a bunch of arses and then in shock says "spirit is very low here" or something like that.
I now have a version where he has "hair problems" (don't know the word :rotfl and just looks for doctor and sees arses in shock.

I like this one better, some angle-course-aiming-etc. stuff () are cool,but still though would like to not have a version that has cut out scenes of any kind..
I would like to have a "full version"..
Is there such a version? Do I have to look for original dvd or is this that?

By the way, I played sh3 all this time, forgot some das boot scenes, now when I watched it, godamn, I will always play sh3. :rotfl:And watch das boot..
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Old 12-17-08, 03:55 PM   #67
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The uncut vrsion:

http://www.amazon.com/Das-Boot-Origi...9548011&sr=8-1
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Old 12-17-08, 04:03 PM   #68
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A lot of good points here methinks.

at the end of the day, people reacted and will react to das boot as their understanding lets them.

the atrocities of that conflict are well documented, but the tarring of all with the same brush is not on.

yes the u-boat fleet had party supporters, like many other military sectors, and lets not forget Donitz did succeed mr adolf toward the end, but there have been many documented cases of propaganda and political officers being widely resisted in this fleet, along with the carrying of party cards.

we all probably know of the story of the kaleun that brought his boat to pier and shouted "are the nazi's still in charge?"...when the answer was "yes"...he put his boat into full reverse, as a gesture to his leaders.

only one commander was ever convicted of war crimes during the war, for very arguable reasons....the same reasons an american sub commander was promoted???

anyone who has only just a passing interest in this terrible time will be of the understanding that every german was an avid nazi...just the way things are really.

its like calling every soldier in iraq or afghanistan an avid blairite/bush supporter.....life's more complex unfortunately.

at the end of the day, it was a mutch different time to now, fighting for your country was something everyman thought worthy, nowadays there's not enough respect for our guys and girls all over the world...just doing their job


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Old 12-17-08, 05:34 PM   #69
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...to revisit this thread after Valkyrie comes out at christmas and read the opinions. Hopefully, it's not a Bruckheimer film (the guy responsible for that awful Pearl Harbor film a couple of years back).
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Old 12-17-08, 06:47 PM   #70
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Honestly, Valkyrie looks so overly hollywooded (a word???) that I thought it was fake!
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Old 12-18-08, 01:13 AM   #71
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Leave us Germans our history, we usually make better movies out of it.
It took one view of the Valkyrie-trailer for me to decide, that i will not spend my money for this movie.
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