Euro 2008

[antikristuseke]

Great match, but ****ty referee work. The portugese made way too many yellow card worthy fould and got away with it and one deffinate red card foul with a second that could have deserved a foul. Allso christiano Ronaldo showed what a great **** he is by taking a dive, looking arround for a bit and the simulating like mad.

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Allso christiano Ronaldo showed what a great **** he is by taking a dive, looking arround for a bit and the simulating like mad.

If that was that one situation his ankle was actually stepped on by the German player, forget his name.

But yea, sometimes he 'films'.

[trekchu]

It wasn't that bad. What surpised me though is that our team turned 180° within only three days. Simply wow.

[Skybird]

Meine Fresse, what was this? Was that the same German team that played one sub-mediocre, one bad and one of the worst German matches ever during the first round? They improved in every aspect where they needed to improve, and presented themselves in the form and strength that by their performances of the past two years I had hoped to see from the beginning. Portugal played well, and became very pressing in the second half, but it's strengths it had shown in the first round and the individual strengths of it's many great players had been successfully neutralised by a masterpiece of a German tactic, and great fighting spirit.

I did not expect this after the bad first round, but I think that the German victory today is well-deserved and a fair reflection of the game. Too bad for Scolari, by TV presence I like him, and he seem to have strong sense of fair play. Too bad for Portugal as well, but one cannot help it - only one team could win in a k.o.-match.

The match against Germany's next opponent will have some - spice , it is either the Croatians, with whom the Germans have an open bill after the first round, or Turkey - and plenty of Turks living in Germany (and having turned German streets into nightly festivals in past two weeks as if they already had won the championship. they are all crazy, you know ).

With a performance level like this, Germany is no sure winner of the final, but can mange to at least trip up Holland or Italy, eventually. These two are still my top favourites.

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Allso christiano Ronaldo showed what a great **** he is by taking a dive, looking arround for a bit and the simulating like mad.

Yes I remember that scene, and he really is a great playactor. that is why although he may be a great football player I will never like him. Maradonna was the same way, and I always strongly disliked him - being a good player, but not quite as admirable as a man. the referees I would rate with a schoolnote of "four minus" - "not quite sufficient".

P.S. Anybody seen the scences after the match, and the "Verbrüderung" between players and fans? Greats scenes.

[Red Heat]

yeah everyone so that...but what you didnt see it was Paulo Ferreira bin push away in front of our goalkeeper, Ricardo wich in consequence of that...it was the third goal of Germany, any one so that!?
I dont think so...

[Rhodes]

Buahhhhhhhhhhhhh Ehehehehehehehhe

Oh well! The third goal was fault, and what was that thing with Nuno Gomes in the first part?Hummmm? Bahhhhh, until the World Championship! Eheheheh

What can I say? Bahhhhhhhhhhh!

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Red Heat

yeah everyone so that...but what you didnt see it was Paulo Ferreira bin push away in front of our goalkeeper, Ricardo wich in consequence of that...it was the third goal of Germany, any one so that!?
I dont think so...

Found it difficult myself to judge whether that was a foul or just the usual rumble within limits that happens in 1-1 situations all the time. Match commentator in German TV mentioned it, but also did not make a great thing of it - and that man is known to comment quite fair and unbiased.
So, I am not sure what to think of it. Anyhow, there have also been questionable decisions against Germany: the ban of the coach, and during the world championship 2006 the totally questionable ban of Frings before the match against Italy (that was lost by germany then). Such decisions come with every tournament. Scolari too it quite calm - if he saw a major issue I suppose he would have protested with more fury - he saw it and made according gesture, but again, quite calmly.

[LaughingSwordfish]

I think the final will be Germany - Italy. The technically gifted Spanish midfield will prove too light against Italy with thier average height being 1.70. After all football is a physical sport and the Italians will take advantage of this. Too bad Pirlo is suspended.

[Andyman23]

Go Croatia!!!!

[Red Heat]

"Originally Posted by antikristuseke
Allso christiano Ronaldo showed what a great **** he is by taking a dive, looking arround for a bit and the simulating like mad."

First the german player ( wich i dont know the name and i dont care) goes for is feeth instead to go for the ball, seconds later after Cristiano Ronaldo is on the floor, he is steep one more time, and you say its a simulating!?

And as somethere said here...Cristiano makes filmes!?
Or the true its there isnt any german player wich have "legs" for Cristiano and the only away to stop him its making foult...this is the "filme" wich i so many times in the game!

For me with situation of Paulo Ferreira and all the game for a question of justice the final result was a Draw...and go to panalties, thats it!

[Red Heat]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Found it difficult myself to judge whether that was a foul or just the usual rumble within limits that happens in 1-1 situations all the time. Match commentator in German TV mentioned it, but also did not make a great thing of it - and that man is known to comment quite fair and unbiased.
So, I am not sure what to think of it. Anyhow, there have also been questionable decisions against Germany: the ban of the coach, and during the world championship 2006 the totally questionable ban of Frings before the match against Italy (that was lost by germany then). Such decisions come with every tournament. Scolari too it quite calm - if he saw a major issue I suppose he would have protested with more fury - he saw it and made according gesture, but again, quite calmly.

*Its beter you see again the images from the game and take your own conclusions insted!

[Skybird]

Not wanting to defend it by principle reasons, but after having scanned British media, German media, Austrian and even French media, only some mention the incident, most do not, and those who mention it in no way talk of a significant violation of rules, and in fact for the most describe it as part of the usual routine you can see happening day in day out during standards and corner kicks, for example. I too had not the impression that Ballack was over the top. And since we do not know if the referee saw it or did not see it, I leave it to that. That people in Portugal look very close at it, is understandable, but all other seem to refuse to give it any further thought or comment.

Despite the pressing of the Portuguese team in the last 15 minutes or so, I also think that the German victory was deserved, if considering the whole match.

A Portuguese women commenting in a german newspaper wrote "If you are with Portuguese football, you must learn to favour beauty over success. But dammit - why-why-why...?"

[asanovic7]

Again, we defend europe from Turks.. For those of you who don't know it, read history books.. Never defeated, and yet never acknowledged by europe.. buhuuuuuuuuhhu

Croats saved Vienna once, we will save it again, I hope.. :rotfl:



Cheers!

p.s. nice one Germans, I was rooting for you, fur die vaterland, na ja!

Hope we meet again!

[Red Heat]

My last comment about this topic its this: the final result was Germany 3 - Portugal 2 wich its no such a big diferent at all. Germany win the game but still no convence nobody even in Germany. This last years show the follow nunbers:

. Qualification for the World Championship of 1986
Estugard, 16 of October 1985

Germany 0 - 1 Portugal

. Qualification for the Wold Championship of 1998
Berlim, 06 of Setember of 1997

Germany 1 - 1 Portugal

. European Championship 2000
Roterdam, 20 of June of 2000

Germany 0 - 3 Portugal

. Qualification for the World Championship 2006
Frankfurt, 08 July of 2006

Germany 3 - 1 Portugal

* Its was the worst game from Portugal team against German team!

[Skybird]

RH, I can understand your disappointment, but even if it is a sting for you, the German team has convinced almost everybody over here, and internationally as well. This does not make it a winner for the finals automatically, for the Italians finally have found a thermal lift as well and the Dutch has been strong from the beginning. But if they can keep that level and maybe even put some more bits onto it, they are able to compete for the trophy now - just two days ago, we weren't, in no way.

As the BBC put it (and I must try to remember that before I hack away at the "typical tournament team" of Germany next time: "never ever count out the Germans". Maybe it is just economical that they often play so weak in the first round.

I just hope we do not meet the Italians in finals. Matches against Italy always are bitter fights and in the end the Italians have won. Croatia would be fine - we have two open bills with them to settle.



Asanovic,

let's keep politics out of here, okay? I hate it when sports and politics get mixed, although i must admit that that is often the case (Olympics...). Okay, I hope the Turks will lose, but that is not because they are the Turks or muslims, but because I want the opportunity for the Germans to take revenge at your Croatian team.