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Old 05-02-08, 08:16 AM   #61
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You have to accept that there is reasonable skepticism that is warranted.
I whole heartedly accept it. I've read both sides and made a decision. Until someone comes out with something other than "it's political" "it's a plot against the third world" or just "no it's not" my mind remains unchanged. The thing that takes any credibility from the anti-gw crowd is that there is no organization in the rebuttal. No scientific organization that says no and here's why. Most so called scientist aren't even specialized in anything remotely to do with the climate. It's rare that the reasons for the rebuttals even match in data. If both sides could come up with a standard formula for measuring it would cut down on most bs from both sides but that ain't never going to happen. As I've said numerous times I hope I'm wrong but I've seen nothing to change my mind. I don't argue preferences I argue what I see.
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Old 05-02-08, 08:19 AM   #62
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Stop bitching! You can set your watch by how often this argument pops up. We are doing a service.
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Old 05-02-08, 02:01 PM   #63
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Oh joe. Where does one get the idea that being a Christian makes you an enemy of science?
From here maybe?:hmm:

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Science Equals Murder [John Derbyshire]


In an interview with the Trinity Broadcasting Network, Ben Stein said the following amazing thing in an interview with Paul Crouch, Jr.
Stein: When we just saw that man, I think it was Mr. Myers [i.e. biologist P.Z. Myers], talking about how great scientists were, I was thinking to myself the last time any of my relatives saw scientists telling them what to do they were telling them to go to the showers to get gassed … that was horrifying beyond words, and that’s where science — in my opinion, this is just an opinion — that’s where science leads you.

Crouch: That’s right.

Stein: …Love of God and compassion and empathy leads you to a very glorious place, and science leads you to killing people.

Crouch: Good word, good word.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/pos...zFiZDE2NjM3NWE=

And, Stein (from Expelled) on Fox.




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Old 05-02-08, 02:24 PM   #64
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Stop bitching! You can set your watch by how often this argument pops up. We are doing a service.
:rotfl::rotfl: Yup, gave me an excuse to use that pic
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Old 05-02-08, 02:44 PM   #65
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I whole heartedly accept it. I've read both sides and made a decision. Until someone comes out with something other than "it's political" "it's a plot against the third world" or just "no it's not" my mind remains unchanged. The thing that takes any credibility from the anti-gw crowd is that there is no organization in the rebuttal. No scientific organization that says no and here's why. Most so called scientist aren't even specialized in anything remotely to do with the climate. It's rare that the reasons for the rebuttals even match in data. If both sides could come up with a standard formula for measuring it would cut down on most bs from both sides but that ain't never going to happen. As I've said numerous times I hope I'm wrong but I've seen nothing to change my mind. I don't argue preferences I argue what I see.
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From here maybe?
Stupid. Just like Peak Oil. Do you really think that view is held by most Christians Fish? When did Ben Stein become the Representative of Christianity? More of the same nonsense from you I guess.
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Old 05-02-08, 04:18 PM   #66
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[When did Ben Stein become the Representative of Christianity?
Well, he seems to think he is.
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Ben Stein is Jewish, guys.
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