The Archbishop of Canterbury has lost his mind...

[bookworm_020]

Isn't his job to speak for the Anglican church??? He dosen't need to speek for the opposition!

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Isn't his job to speak for the Anglican church??? He dosen't need to speek for the opposition!

Well, the Anglican church is the established church of England, which may or may not give the Archbishop a role to play in national religious issues.
Speaking for the opposition?
I'll run a mile from that.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Brief summary of my views on this:

• Another case of the public saying "We told you so" regarding the Archbishop
• Another case of how this country is going down the ****ter
• Another missed opportunity for people to grow a spine and stop bending over backwards for these people

Simple as that.

[Happy Times]

Remember this?







They do.





(CNN) -- Danish authorities said Tuesday they have arrested three people who allegedly were plotting a "terror-related assassination" of a cartoonist whose drawing of the Prophet Mohammed sparked rage in the Muslim world two years ago.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu...ef=mpstoryview

[JSLTIGER]

That's nothing. Remember this:

Palestinians Celebrate Attacks with Gunfire

By Joseph Logan
BEIRUT (Reuters) - Palestinians in Lebanon met news of devastating attacks on American targets Tuesday with jubilant gunfire, dancing and cheering, saying Israel's chief backer deserved such a punishment.
"This is the result of American policy. America and Israel are one," one Palestinian gunman said.
"This is the reaction required to confront the American and Israeli arrogance," said Mohamad Hallak, a 40-year-old Palestinian refugee from the southern Rashidiyeh camp in Tyre.
Firing rattled across Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon and the West Bank as soon as television stations broke the news, carrying live footage of buildings on fire and collapsing and terrified Americans fleeing the stricken areas.
Jubilant Palestinians took to the streets of refugee camps of Lebanon and the West Bank, waving Palestinian flags and distributing sweets to celebrate the attacks on major U.S. landmarks and government offices.
Some Lebanese shared the joy.
"We're ecstatic. Let America have a taste of what we've tasted," said Ali Mareh, a Lebanese resident of Beirut.
"People are happy. America has always supported terrorism. They see how the innocent Palestinian children are killed and they back the Zionist army that does it. America has never been on the side of justice," said Samir, a Lebanese.
"This is the language that the United States understands and this is the way to stop America from helping the Zionist terrorists who are killing our children, men and women everyday," said Mohamed Rasheed, a Palestinian.
Lebanon is home to some to 360,000 Palestinian refugees. After four generations of exile, many Palestinians feel embittered against the United States for its support of Israel -- a feeling which has grown during the present uprising in the occupied territories of the West Bank and Gaza.
"Today is a feast for the Palestinians. We do not differentiate between America and Israel. America is our prime enemy," added another Palestinian.
Palestinian President Yasser Arafat condemned the attacks which leveled the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York City and struck the Pentagon in Washington.
Palestinians who have often burned U.S. flags in protests during their 11-month-old uprising against Israeli occupation also celebrated in the streets of Arab East Jerusalem.
"I feel I am in a dream. I never believed that one day the United States would come to pay a price for its support to Israel," said Mustafa, a 24-year-old Palestinian gunman.
Several dozen Palestinian youths gathered in Arab East Jerusalem to celebrate as well, honking out wedding tunes on their car horns. "We are so happy that America was hit. America is against us in supporting Israel," Suleiman, one of the demonstrators, said.
In Nablus, motorists honked their horns and gunmen fired into the air from assault rifles to cheer on the attacks which unfolded in the space of a few hours and stunned people around the globe.

Or this:

"Bullseye," say Egyptians as they celebrate anti-US attacks

CAIRO, Sept 11 (AFP) -
Egyptian students, taxi drivers and shopkeepers crowded round television sets stacked up in electrical store windows in downtown Cairo Tuesday evening, celebrating a string of elaborate attacks on New York and Washington.
"Bullseye," commented two taxi drivers as they watched footage of the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York shrouded in plumes of smoke after two presumably hijacked planes slammed into them earlier in the day.
Another Egyptian man, Gawish Abdel Karim, told AFP he was pleased with the wave of violence in which another plane crashed into the Pentagon in Washington, the heart of the US defence establishment.
"Nice work," said Abdel Karim, who drives a car for an Asian embassy.
"The Americans have forgotten that God exists. They have us by the throat and now they find themselves in a science fiction film scenario, but this time Rambo's not there to save the White House."
Anti-US sentiment has mushroomed on the streets of Egypt and other Arab countries over its widely-perceived support for Israel over the Palestinians in the past 11 months of violence in the Middle East.
As with other US facilities around the world, workers at US government offices and Egyptian citizens were taking security precautions, with only "non-essential" operations set to be covered on Wednesday.
However, US officials said there had been no credible or specific threat against US citizens or interests here.
Abdel Karim hailed the attacks as "the best thing that's happened since the October War," referring to the October 1973 Arab-Israeli war when Egyptian forces made a surprise attack on the Israeli army across the Suez Canal.
"Mabruk! Mabruk! (congratulations)", shouted a crowd of people huddled round the shop window.
Egypt, considered one of the "moderate" countries in the Middle East, is one of the United States' strongest allies in the region, being the first Arab country to sign a peace treaty with Israel in 1979.
But people on the streets do not necessarily see themselves as US allies.
"The Americans are cowards. They use other countries to hit us. They don't have the courage to meet us face to face," said Khalil Matar, 43, who works in a state-run soap factory. "The myth of the indestructible United States has gone up in smoke."
Polytechnic student Amira Ryad also vented her anger.
"We saw the tower crash down," she said, referring to one of the two towers of the World Trade Center, both of which were razed by the attack.
"I only wish (US President) George Bush and his dear little baby (Israeli Prime Minister Ariel) Sharon had been buried in there too," she added.
Fellow student Murad went as far as speculating that the United States was behind the attacks, "to find an excuse for the National Missile Defence system" that Bush wants to deploy to protect the United States from so-called rogue states, despite widespread global opposition.
"Those people are capable of killing their own people to prove they're right," he said.
Egyptian President Hosni "Mubarak should know that the people can no longer be humiliated, but of course he'll never declare war" on Israel, the student said.
Another taxi driver said he was going to make special prayers to thank him for the attacks against the US.

Most of this was kept quietly under wraps by the media, mentioned once and then never again.

[AkbarGulag]

If you read what some muslims around the world, from Great Britian to the US to Australia and even from New Zealand, have to say about it, you will realise the only goal is to assimilate everyone else, while not being assimilated themsleves.

Even the Turkish Prime Minister just urged Turks in Germany to resist assimilation and to maintain and increase their own schools and Courts. Yes, the same Prime minister who had the headscarf ban removed in Turkey. He now tells them that speaking Turkish in Germany is more important than speaking German.

It is comment like the Arch-Bishops that embolden this type of confrontational attitude. Unfortunately, people who just want a normal life free of all religious sentiment are the main losers. The whole debate erodes civil liberties and forces a 'Us or Them' mentality.

This is why people would rather follow tyrants who have no religious affiliation.

[jumpy]

has something to say about this and despite my thinking that certain 'traditions' ought to be a part of diverse communities out of fairness (though ultimately subject to UK civil/criminal law), I find I never fail to chuckle and agree with Pat on many things, more so given his obvious humorous slant on his opinions.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by jumpy

has something to say about this and despite my thinking that certain 'traditions' ought to be a part of diverse communities out of fairness (though ultimately subject to UK civil/criminal law), I find I never fail to chuckle and agree with Pat on many things, more so given his obvious humorous slant on his opinions.

Posting #36 in this thread!

Chuckle myself often about his videos, yes, but let'S not be mistaken: he is bitterly determined. And two or three videos there are that are not funny at all, but just grim.

I wonder why he still can afford to walk around instead of hiding in a bunker - people got killed for less.

[jumpy]

damn my thread skimming skills! lol

Yer, Pat can be a bit harsh at times, but at least there's no chicanery in his point of view - something refreshingly direct that is often lacking in many speakers today. He says what he thinks and thinks about what he says and because of how we live he can say it with humour and without fear; long may it remain so.

Having watched most of his videos it seems he has a small problem with the idea of organised religion....

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by jumpy

Having watched most of his videos

All 36 on my USB stick...

it seems he has a small problem with the idea of organised religion....

Öööööhhhm - who has not...?