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Old 01-16-08, 08:05 PM   #61
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For me, attacking on the surface is just instinct now, when its dark I attack surfaced. So you can imagine the shock I had when I did a textbook SH3/GWX style night time approach and then they all of a sudden began zig zagging!

The 2.1 keeps one occupied now. But its nice to be able to learn to play both games properly.
I do lots night attacks myself, usually shadowing a convoy for a full day just to attack at night, and don't find it impossible. I agree that it's almost impossible to do if the escorts are plenty in numbers and conveniently(or inconveniently what comes to the sub) positioned, but with three or less escorts you can usually pull it off. If it's three escorts, then one is usually at the point and the rest on both sides. If the side escorts are situated so far forward that I can't expect to sneak in between them and the point man, then I'll stay at the convoys 10 or 2 o'clock until the guy on my side of the convoy drops back to do a sweep(they do this every few hours) and then charge in to the convoys now unprotected flank. Escaping on the surface is a bit trickier, but even if you have to dive you get a good head start against the DDs, and won't get caught at periscope depth.
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Old 01-16-08, 08:36 PM   #62
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LOL Pen.

'Decks Awash'

They do things differently over there.:rotfl:
They do yes. Philistines all of them! :rotfl:
Yes, we do it with air conditioning, refrigerated foods, showers, radar and at 21 kts :rotfl:
I'm sorry I came late to this little contretemps, but I feel I must point out to the philistines that we do not do that differently over here. It's "decks awash" here as well. "Hull down" is a tank driver term, and unnacceptable in any man's (or woman's) navy.

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The term hull-down describes the situation where the upper part of a vessel or vehicle is visible, but the main, lower body hull is not; the opposite term hull-up describes the situation where all of the body is visible.


Mostly this is fitting were the curvature of the earth does not allow the hull to be seen but the mast and rigging can be seen.

But yes, normally used to describe armored vehicles.
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Old 01-17-08, 01:47 PM   #63
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Dad-blasted frag-a-maggot know-it-all show-off!:rotfl:

You're right. I had forgotten about the distance thingy. "Hull down" is indeed used to descibe a ship too far away to see the waterline. Or the hull. Or the superstructure. Any further than that the proper term is "smoke on the horizon".
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Dad-blasted frag-a-maggot know-it-all show-off!:rotfl:

You're right. I had forgotten about the distance thingy. "Hull down" is indeed used to descibe a ship too far away to see the waterline. Or the hull. Or the superstructure. Any further than that the proper term is "smoke on the horizon".
Hm...so "Smoke on the water" only applies to burning casinos...? :rotfl:
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