A message from Kapitan_Phillips

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Venatore

Moderators, I hope you have seen this ?

Since you have posted this on GT, I will assume that you are addressing me. In this regard, I think that if you look at overall trend on this forum over the past two months, you will find that the amount of flamebaiting and overt hostility has been dramatically reduced. Aside from a few with some extreme views, which you will always have when dealing with a member base as large as we have here, I think that GT has become a much better place for everyone.

In terms of extremism and it's presence on the forum: The best way to 'help' the moderators is to report the post and not to engage the poster. Attacking the poster gives potential justification to to his or her otherwise unjustifiable remarks. The individual in question can then rightly claim that he or she was responding to attacks. Furthermore, it prolongs the discussion, which is the ultimate goal of the 'engagee'. Although gratifying to the 'engager', the act of retaliation is not at all helpful, and makes it far more difficult to remove the 'engagee'. Furthermore, a dogpile by a series of members only serves to drive the original offender into a more subdued membership, which forces the moderators to sit and wait for the problem to flare up again before being able to take action. This usually results more dramatic action by the original poster, which is bad for everyone.

The Management

[Seth8530]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Pardon...?

Maybe I am fooled by my inappropriate knowledge of English language. In German, the use of "man" (man tut dies, man sagt jenes) is in widespread use, but my impression was that the english pendant of saying "one is doing" instead of "you are doing" is only rarely used, even if the context in which the latter is used is meant to be non-person-specific, and generalised - not wanting to say the adressed person is directly and exclusively meant. If that is what made you angry, I apologize. It's foreign language for me, after all.

No problem we are cool

[Seth8530]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

A few words about the freedom of speech:

Freedom of speech is lovely. In fact, it is very lovely. However, this is a private internet forum. Your ideas of topical selection as it pertains to freedom of speech may be in opposition to the wishes of the forum owner and administrator as it pertains to the type of forum that he wishes to run. In short, type what you like, but be prepared to censor yourself when asked.

The Management

Sorry for double post and i am aware of that Im just saying that it kinda defeats the purpuse not having freedom of speach.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Seth8530

Sorry for double post and i am aware of that Im just saying that it kinda defeats the purpuse not having freedom of speach.

That is because you do not have absolute freedom of speech on a private forum. The man who pays the bills gets to make the rules. If he does not want you to talk about eggplant, then you must either comply or not post. Very simple.

[Venatore]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Since you have posted this on GT, I will assume that you are addressing me. In this regard, I think that if you look at overall trend on this forum over the past two months, you will find that the amount of flamebaiting and overt hostility has been dramatically reduced. Aside from a few with some extreme views, which you will always have when dealing with a member base as large as we have here, I think that GT has become a much better place for everyone.

In terms of extremism and it's presence on the forum: The best way to 'help' the moderators is to report the post and not to engage the poster. Attacking the poster gives potential justification to to his or her otherwise unjustifiable remarks. The individual in question can then rightly claim that he or she was responding to attacks. Furthermore, it prolongs the discussion, which is the ultimate goal of the 'engagee'. Although gratifying to the 'engager', the act of retaliation is not at all helpful, and makes it far more difficult to remove the 'engagee'. Furthermore, a dogpile by a series of members only serves to drive the original offender into a more subdued membership, which forces the moderators to sit and wait for the problem to flare up again before being able to take action. This usually results more dramatic action by the original poster, which is bad for everyone.

The Management

Acknowledged.

[Spruence M]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

I can pretty much put a full stop on this thread here and save the mods some work, so here we go.

Priceless

[Oberon]

Well said Kapt Phil!!

Should get it put into the forum rules!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by joea

Nice twist, did Pat say to reopen Auschwitz or what does he want to do with muslims?

Your wasting your breath mate.....he's addicted to luncheon meat

@Kapitan_Phillips

Very well put sir...~Salute~

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by Kpt. Munson

Same here, I don't entertain these kind of people; didn't even want to post in this thread but you wrote what I thought so there you go .. couldn't resist agreeing with you.
Look at this thread now ? .. What started off as a positive venture from Kapitan Phillips has ended up on a slippery slope.
It's just a matter of time before this thread is locked at the rate it's going and that should be telling you something.

[Seth8530]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

That is because you do not have absolute freedom of speech on a private forum. The man who pays the bills gets to make the rules. If he does not want you to talk about eggplant, then you must either comply or not post. Very simple.

I am very aware of that. Its like a club you can invite in people you like and invite out people you dont becuse its his server. or he is paying for it.