Sacred Relics, or distractions?

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by NefariousKoel

I mentioned how I disliked reciting 'the pledge' when I was younger, but it didn't have any effect on how I felt about my country when I got older. After watching world events unfold over a few decades, I became thankful for where I was.

Is having national pride really that dead in Europe? I think not when someone insults a European's nation... I see the reaction. Deep down they're still proud of who they are. It's just damn unfortunate that this political correctness has become second nature - even part of your culture.

Overall, I'm proud I'm an American because my ancestors left such staleness behind.

Actually that pride is growing in European countries, i would say its coming a trend but i havent seen surveys or anything. I base it on people ive talked and conversations ive had. Even Germans started to show signs during the World Cup.
But i dont see many risks though, most see that taking it too far leads only in ruins, again. There seems to be a lot of respect in most EU countries towards eachothers history and culture. But most citizens in all member states dont want Turkey in the Union.
So i think it works as its suppose to, keep us together and not killing eachother.:rotfl:

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by NefariousKoel

I mentioned how I disliked reciting 'the pledge' when I was younger, but it didn't have any effect on how I felt about my country when I got older. After watching world events unfold over a few decades, I became thankful for where I was.

True, it had little or no effect on me at the time also. It's the whole idea of getting up and swearing allegiance to a country every morning that I can't stand. If I was in my parents place at the time, I think I would have had issues with it, seeing as I'm not a US citizen :?
I haven't any real trouble with patriotism or nationalism, I just don't understand it. This isn't US-specific, btw, but I do shudder at the idea of a Pledge Of Allegiance, and making children say it. Pisses me off something horrid.

Is having national pride really that dead in Europe? I think not when someone insults a European's nation... I see the reaction. Deep down they're still proud of who they are. It's just damn unfortunate that this political correctness has become second nature - even part of your culture.

National pride isn't dead at all, nor is political correctness the culprit. Personally, I prefer reasoned pride/shame of my nation, hence my status as "conflicted". Being proud of my country for a reason, not just because of my passport. I'm not going to honour my country by default, as my determined nationality has nothing to do with me.
If that's the death of national pride, fair enough. What political correctness do you see at work here?

Overall, I'm proud I'm an American because my ancestors left such staleness behind.

That....makes no sense. You are proud of the choices of others, centuries in the past, which you are connected to by an accident of birth.

Sorry, don't meant to be mean, maybe if you could explain it a little more
me no understandy

[Ishmael]

Here's my idea of a Sacred Relic:

[Happy Times]

Heres mine.

[NefariousKoel]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

That....makes no sense. You are proud of the choices of others, centuries in the past, which you are connected to by an accident of birth.

Sorry, don't meant to be mean, maybe if you could explain it a little more
me no understandy

What I'm trying to convey is that I'm happy my country isn't sliding into being a welfare state. It's just a personal preference. If I thought even more of my livelihood should be forcibly taken and given to others, then I'd be happier in Europe. Not to mention the docileness as a whole.

I've ever-increasingly become a conservative over my lifetime from life experiences and this place suits me much better than others is all. *shrug*

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Heres mine.

That is a sacrileg what you did, and i feel deeply offended. don't you know that the name of B--n shall not be shown or spoken out in public? I should know, for it is my religion. You are a rabid racist dog, really. I am ashamed to live on the same continent with you. I have a right that you honour and respect my religion, and do not hurt my religious feelings. Shame on you Over here, we are about to raise a 70m high B--n monument to worhsip our m----r, of course there is a lot of protest and unknowing ignorrance, but that is why we raise the monument: to teach them on who B--n was, is and will be, and hwo they could serve him best. So I think it will not be a problem with locals once it is there. We and B--n only mean it well with ya all.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Skybird

That is a sacrileg what you did, and i feel deeply offended. don't you know that the name of B--n shall not be shown or spoken out in public? I should know, for it is my religion. You are a rabid racist dog, really. I am ashamed to live on the same continent with you. I have a right that you honour and respect my religion, and do not hurt my religious feelings. Shame on you Over here, we are about to raise a 70m high B--n monument to worhsip our m----r, of course there is a lot of protest and unknowing ignorrance, but that is why we raise the monument: to teach them on who B--n was, is and will be, and hwo they could serve him best. So I think it will not be a problem with locals once it is there. We and B--n only mean it well with ya all.

Very sorry, i not familiar with your religion. Can you also have sexy time with your sister?