NEWS regarding 1.3

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by ScottD

So we are supposed just to lay down and take it? Would be nice to set a precedent for a change instead of getting the same old...

I love the mentality I am seeing. It is like buying a Rolex from a street vendor for full price, and not wanting to complain or fight back when you figure out it is a fake replica simply because he may not carry a Mavado in the future! All the while, the other street vendors are watching and taking note on how to get into the fake Rolex business! The profit is the driving factor - It is more profitable to buy fake Rolexes and sell at full price than to sell real ones at full price! Too funny!

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[Spike]

Why on earth would anyone think that 2 patches are enough?Is it because this is not a game like ghost recon or what,why did they make this game and let it get panned in the reviews because of this.Its like SH3 all over again.....What a bunch of CRAP!!!!!I have been waiting for a finish patch so I can finish my patroll that does'nt work right..Shhhh...

[Donavan]

UBI and many other game developers depend on our weakness. We tolerate crappy products from the gaming industry. They enjoy and profit from our stupidity. We deserve to be ripped off.

However from now on I'm going to wait a full year before buying any PC game. I'll study the reviews and state of the product. If the game looks ok after all the patches are released, I'll pick it up from the discount bin.

Get smart, stay smart. Stop buying betas.

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by Donavan

UBI and many other game developers depend on our weakness. We tolerate crappy products from the gaming industry. They enjoy and profit from our stupidity. We deserve to be ripped off.

However from now on I'm going to wait a full year before buying any PC game. I'll study the reviews and state of the product. If the game looks ok after all the patches are released, I'll pick it up from the discount bin.

Get smart, stay smart. Stop buying betas.

I agree thats my new buying plan and I doubt i'll have to wait a year for any game to hit the bargain basket.

If UBI doesn't come out with a future sub game SO WHAT.
It won't be because no one bought their previous sub games.

[Ducimus]

My turn to complain.


This depresses me. I knew ubi would drop the ball, but i didnt think they'd try it so soon. I mean, at least SH3 got up to patch 1.4b. So 1.2 is a little premature, even by ubi's standards.

[Easy Tiger]

Originally Posted by Donavan

UBI and many other game developers depend on our weakness. We tolerate crappy products from the gaming industry. They enjoy and profit from our stupidity. We deserve to be ripped off.

However from now on I'm going to wait a full year before buying any PC game. I'll study the reviews and state of the product. If the game looks ok after all the patches are released, I'll pick it up from the discount bin.

Get smart, stay smart. Stop buying betas.

Quoted for truth, that's some good advice

[Arrowhead2k1]

I've been 'beta testing' new releases like this one for a long time. But eventually, they nearly all got adequately patched.

But this is the first time I've seen a community being told to beg for a fixed product that might never even be fixed. Now I'm beginning to feel sorry that I allowed myself to jump on board of the SH4 hype wagon and pay full price for this on the first day of release.

I hope this is some kind of hoax and that a patch is already on the way... That's all I've got to say...

[MaxT.dk]

Originally Posted by Arrowhead2k1

I've been 'beta testing' new releases like this one for a long time. But eventually, they nearly all got adequately patched.

But this is the first time I've seen a community being told to beg for a fixed product that might never even be fixed. Now I'm beginning to feel sorry that I allowed myself to jump on board of the SH4 hype wagon and pay full price for this on the first day of release.

That's why I haven't voted or left my voice in all of those "please-gimme-teh-1.3-patch-daddy" forums and threads... It sickens me... I enjoy the game the way it is... If it gets better - good... If not - more challenge

[SteamWake]

All were asking for is to fix the few key components that should have at the very least worked right in the first place.

Like Radar... uhh thats a key piece of the game.

[Nightmare]

Originally Posted by Hitman

FACT 1: SH4 is the only modern pacific submarine warfare sim out there

FACT 2: It has certain bugs

FACT 3: None of the current bugs kills my gameplay at 100% realism

FACT 4: Mods have been doning a hell of a job. They did before a hell of a job with SH3, turning a good game into something beautful.

OUTCOME: I like SH4. I will support a 1.3 patch, but since the only alternatives to SH4 are SH1 256 colour graphics or Pacific Aces with its limitations, I HONESTLY THINK my 50$ Deluxe version are a BARGAIN compared to the alternatives. Really, 50$ for a Pacific Warfare game with gorgeous graphics and minor bugs that modders can solve to a 90% is the best thing that happened to me since SH1.

Go modders GO!!

I agree with you on 90% of your post. Where I disagree is your Fact #3 where currently bugs don't kill game play at 100% realism. The radar bug is my major issue that I believe should be resolved. The only work around was implemented in FTT and that fix resorted to giving SJ radar at the start of the war and made it so that it could detect aircraft since 1.2 patch broke SD radar. If I remember correctly there was even another compromise with getting the radar to work when heading south between 270 and 90 degrees. If I'm not running FTT or any other mod with the fix, I don't like having to turn my boat completely around when I running trying to get ahead of a convoy that is heading south!

Don't get me wrong; I love the modding community here. They are just trying to do the best they can with what they can mod. I'm not to sure how I feel with the fact Ubi might just leave it up to the modders to fix. I paid Ubi and the developers for this game, and if they are leaving to the community to fix things I feel bad that the modders haven't seen a cent of my money. They are after all the ones busting their butt to make the game the best it can be.

[Nightmare]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

My turn to complain.


This depresses me. I knew ubi would drop the ball, but i didnt think they'd try it so soon. I mean, at least SH3 got up to patch 1.4b. So 1.2 is a little premature, even by ubi's standards.

I was hoping that SH4 would be in a better state on release than it was. That was a gamble I took when I purchased it shortly after release and I was fine with that because I faith that SH4 would get a full patch development cycle. Very depressing that the community has to make its case to get another patch. The game was just released two months ago!

Originally Posted by SteamWake

All were asking for is to fix the few key components that should have at the very least worked right in the first place.

Like Radar... uhh thats a key piece of the game.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

[Radioshow]

First, I bought SH1-IV, enjoyed them all. The problem with this is not the fact that it is only a "game", it is that we paid good money(I have kids, it's good money) for a product that is not complete regardless of the reason. This is becoming far too common among developers lately. I do not expect a bugless game, that is virtually impossible, but the way this game was released with the manual not matching the game and many features either broken or not functional is not acceptable. A class action lawsuit may actually give some of the bean counters a wake up call, and if your worried about the SH franchise, I would not buy another Ubi/SH game if it is going to be like this again. I do not, however, believe that a lawsuit would achieve anything here. The big companies like FakeAtari/ EA/Ubi obviously are oblivious to anything other than the bottomline, which means SHIV is probably done. Many people say "whiner", or its only a game, but it is the principle of it. They(UBI) need to fix atleast the main issue Neal brought up and that should bring SHIV upto SHIII 1.4b level. Although it should not be left to modders to "fix" a game, only enhance or upgrade as GWX and the like have done.

[tater]

The number of patches is meaningless, what is important is the basic functionality of the game. If ANY CTDs or BSODs are commonplace, it's just plain broken.

If the major units in game behave in a way that is clearly wrong, it's broken.

If a deck gun is rotated on it's side, that's broken.

The list goes on and on. the fact there was a 1.1 and 1.2 patch doesn't mean it's finished. Finish the product to some minimally acceptable level or don;t sell it. This really will be my last every ubi product if they don't fix it, and it's not like I only buy sub sims, I have the GR games, Il-2 (all of it), BiA, etc.

Never again (sad, since getting Oleg's new sim was on my "must buy" list). The only way to teach a business a lesson is to not spend your money, or to get your money back.

[Ping Jockey]

It's a joke right?????

[Major Johnson]

Originally Posted by melin71

and i realy need spellhelp...im realy bad in spelling

Melin71! I damn near fell off my chair!! That was great!! There I was, reading your post, and I commend you on attempting the English language. But that line near the end made me bust out loud laughing!!! Glad to see you have a handle on the American slang!!

Sorry guys, didn't want to get off topic here.

But I will say that I'm always one to look at the glass half full. Even when it looks bleak. But right now I feel my pants are down around my ankles and there's a bullseye painted on my butt!! With the $ you know where!!

Even still I believe the devs want to finish the game, and I believe they will get the chance. So go ahead UBIsoft, have at it! Just have the common courtesy to give me a reach around, and the 1.3 patch!!