SH4: Huge Dissappointment

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by 1mPHUNit0

Whatis this?
Yes it's no rant but....
how many times peoples say that
and it's not correct at all indeed.
This it's always ok?
I don't think so.

It's rather presumptious of you to tell me what experience I'm having with my software on my computer.

[horrgakx]

I've actually stopped playing it (v1.1) and will wait for another patch.
Its just too problematic for smooth gameplay.

[OakGroove]

This horse has been beaten ad nauseum, and it's not getting us anywhere.

[corvette k225]

You better watch out what you say, or your post could be shut off, There is no free speach on this website. Someone from the other side of the Atlantic!! will shut you down.

[tonyeh]

The main problem is, is that I'm afraid SHIV will be abandoned before all of the endemic bugs are knocked out. The dev team (who we shouldn't really blame for this mess) will be moved on to something else (a la SHIII) and SHIV will just die quietly as one of the "near misses". People will mod the crap out of it, but it will probably ever meet the standard that some of the optimistic people out there believe, because some of the functionality problems are absolutely chronic.

I personally think the source code should be handed over to somebody else, if the team is moved away, there are probably enough people on this very forum that could finish the job properly, as they won't be under the pressure that UBI has obviously placed the dev team under.


Tony

[Boris]

Arnie says it best...

[johnnydrake]

SH4 has afew problems yet so did SH3. I still think SH4 is excellent. The graphics are great and Im sure that subsequent patches will alleviate some of the minor problems. Note to complainers.....insteads of complaining about the "A" key or pressing 1 for slow ahead....try using the mouse interface on the depth and speed dials....its no big deal....really

[tonyeh]

Originally Posted by Boris

Arnie says it best...

Get back in the galley you!

[davejb]

It's not out of line for people who are experiencing multiple game breaking bugs to complain - some people get the bugs some don't, for those unable to load a career save without a crash to desktop this game isn't largely okay.

If the complaints are a genuine problem then perhaps some 'transfer to the bitching thread' option could be employed? The people posting, both for and against, are keen sub simmers... or perhaps those not experiencing problems might avoid opening threads titled 'SH4: Huge disappointment' purely because they feel like arguing? (I'm amazed to find a moderator doing this, if you find threads with titles you don't like DO NOT OPEN THEM).

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by davejb

The people posting, both for and against, are keen sub simmers... or perhaps those not experiencing problems might avoid opening threads titled 'SH4: Huge disappointment' purely because they feel like arguing? (I'm amazed to find a moderator doing this, if you find threads with titles you don't like DO NOT OPEN THEM).

Then all that's left for me to open is about 3 threads.

See my point? How would you like it if the entire first page was filled with 25 different threads about plotting an intercept course? You might think "alright enough with the intercept course topics already! Doesn't anyone have anything else to talk about?!"

No one is denying newbies or anyone else for that matter the opportunity to voice an opinion. But keep it to threads established for that purpose. Multiple threads on the same topic are against the rules of most every forum out there. That's just the basics of keeping a forum tidy and readable.

[jasonb885]

Originally Posted by McBeck

These days I really feel sorry for the devs, with the unappriciation they are getting from a number of people....not a very motivating factor!!

The number of nonsensical arguments in this thread is disturbing, but this one has always been one of my favorites.

Dude, _they_ _got_ _paid_. End of story. Next rant?

[jasonb885]

Originally Posted by darksythe

What are you thinking exactly? The people who developed this game are working on fixing the problems we are telling them about. by saying "We hate what you have done" how is that going to help get the sim fixed, what kind of appreciation for the fact that they are fixing it does that present?

None. Have some patience.

You don't work in software development, do you?

The game has shipped. UBI's interest in this has been concluded.

I can guarantee you there will be few upcoming fixes of any magnitude, especially if it's anything like the SH3 1.4b patch beta testing I participated in before it's release.

As to logical fallacies, no one can say with any certaintly that no other game developer will bankroll a subsim in the future merely because UBI decides to stop producing Subsim due to poor sales. In fact, I'd suggest a competitor may be more likely to enter the market should the only competitor disappear.

The UBISoft apologism surrounding SH4 is quite disturbing.

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by tonyeh

I personally think the source code should be handed over to somebody else, if the team is moved away, there are probably enough people on this very forum that could finish the job properly, as they won't be under the pressure that UBI has obviously placed the dev team under.


Tony

Yes! Falcon 4 continues to develop through it's fan base long after it was abandoned. It is too early to know but if UBI releases the source code to the fan base, we could go far....very far...

[John Channing]

Just for the record the Falcon 4.0 source code was never officially released... it was stolen and released.

JCC

[Immacolata]

Originally Posted by davejb

It's not out of line for people who are experiencing multiple game breaking bugs to complain - some people get the bugs some don't, for those unable to load a career save without a crash to desktop this game isn't largely okay.

Why don't they go and whine at ubi soft's forum then? This isn't ubi soft. The operator of the site is not responsible for the games failures. The people who frequent these boards know all this by now. If you ask for help, sure. For some reason they believe that other people want to listen to their rants. But its happening every day, another whine thread by a bilge rat, geez. All it does is to pester the atmosphere so you can serve your own selfish goals of relief for your frustration. There is a sticky for likes and dislikes, people should use that and let the rest of the forum be used for discussing the game in general - THAT WE ALL KNOW IS BUGGY IN MANY WAYS. No need to rub our noses in it time after time as if we are naughty puppies.