STAR TREK Captains

[Hakahura]

What no Sisko!

Oh well guess it's Picard then.

[Bartolomeus]

V O T E for K I R K!!

Marko

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Oh Feck...that was probably me voting... That's what happens when you trawl back through your old subscribed threads...

Fecking Oberon Feck off :rotfl:


I'm still in Farther Jack mode, Fecking birds.

[Sea Demon]

Sorry, but Kirk was the man. Kirk all the way.

Originally Posted by STEED

It's time to put this to the vote and I vote for Kirk.

DS9 does not count here!!!

I voted for Kirk as well. Just seemed like a cowboy from the start and that's the way I like my Starship captians to be.

Originally Posted by Chock

It's got to be Kirk, and I'll tell you why too:

Crewman: What on Earth are we gonna do!?
Captain James T Kirk: Nuke the planet from orbit, but beam up the bad guy's chick first, I want to get down with her.

or..

Crewman: What on Earth are we gonna do!?
Insert any Next Generation captain's name: We must retire to a safe distance and consider the Prime Directive. Let's have a discussion with the onboard psychologist and then have a play in the Holodeck for a while. Make it so.

And what about Captain Christopher Pike or whatever his name was, the original NCC-1701 Enterprise Captain, where's he on the poll?

Chock

DAMN right! No namby-pamby discussion stuff here, just DO it.

Speaking of Pike, they're coming out with another series, Kirk and Spock, the early years. I say they should dump that and let's do Pike's years exploring. 13 years of exploring. 13 years of NOT KNOWING what's on that unexplored planet you're heading to.

[Janus]

Where is that guy from "Deep Space nine" as a poll option?

[Chock]

More proof, as if proof were needed, that Kirk is the man:

'99 Knights of the air
ride super-high-tech jet fighters
Everyone's a Superhero
Everyone's a Captain Kirk
With orders to identify
To clarify and classify
Scramble in the summer sky
As 99 red balloons go by.'

Chock

[Reaves]

If the question was who is the coolest captain i'd say Kirk, but the question is who is the greatest captain.

Now if you were a crew member in star trek who would you rather be serving? If Kirk was my captain I can guarentee I wouldn't be part of any away teams, that's a death sentence with Kirk leading the way.


:hmm:

[Chock]

It's only a death sentence if you wear the Red yeoman shirt of death, wear a different coloured shirt and you'd be fine.

But on a more serious note, the real problem I have with the more recent versions of Star Trek, is not so much the characters, as the storylines. I think the newer programmes rely too much on technobabble to get out of dramatic situations, rather than by using intelligent scripting. By that I mean, there could be some dire emergency in a newer episode, which has you wondering what on Earth they can do to save themselves, when they'll sidestep the issue by having the science guy say some crap like 'What if we crossfeed the bilateral inverter streams with Jeffrey's Tube number seven and reverse the axial flow?' and lo and behold, it will sort stuff out. They never used to pull that crap on the original series, it was usually a much cleverer resolution to things.

They might just as well say: 'Have you tried switching it off and then back on again?'

Chock

[Sailor Steve]

I completely agree about Galaxy Quest. The only way it could have been better would be if it had been made 15 years earlier, with the cast from Star Trek!

"Let's get out of here before one of those things kills Guy!"

[P_Funk]

How many captains look cool as a Klingon?

[DeepSix]

Originally Posted by Chock

It's only a death sentence if you wear the Red yeoman shirt of death, wear a different coloured shirt and you'd be fine.
...

ROFL and completely agree with the rest of your post. They got too far away from Roddenberry's emphasis on human condition. But that sounds too philosophical for this thread.... "Security team, set phasers on stun." "Yes sir! I go to meet my Script with a happy heart!"

[Reaves]

Yeah TNG did get a little 'technical' although I do remember a few episodes from the original series where a similar thing happened. And when it comes to silly scripts, that's just a world of tribble... I mean trouble right there.

[P_Funk]

Originally Posted by Reaves

Yeah TNG did get a little 'technical' although I do remember a few episodes from the original series where a similar thing happened.

Are you mad? The ones that cover the human condition best are easily the original and TNG. I can think of piles of 'human condition' stories in TNG. If anything the one that took on 'tech' too much was Voyager. I saw a show where the producers said so, that they did it on purpose. If you listen to the script the number of 'transvayleon fluctuations in the high EM band' stuff is just excessive next to TNG or DS9.

My favourite TNG epi is the one where Picard has his mind taken control of by an alien probe and he lives the life of another man from a long dead civilization in less than an hour. Another one is about him meeting and getting taken to a planet by that race that speak in metaphors and he tells the story of Gilgamesh and bonds with the man. Or when Picard gets tortured and the psychology of it comes out. Or Sarek is losing his mind and uses Picard as a mental crutch to complete a diplomatic mission but as a result Picard has to suffer the burden of Sarek's wild emotions. Then theres the non-stop story of Data's search for humanity.

Thats ALOT of human condition stuff off the top of my head. DS9 was the one that focused more on persistent storyline but still did human condition stuff. Voyager did some too but was most hevy on the technical jargon. Sometimes it made me embarassed to watch when they explained how simple it was in weird invented terms.

You want believable science justifications watch Stargate SG-1. They actually use existing string theory for most of their stuff.