Saddam to be hanged by Sunday

[The Munster]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

I don't have anything against democracy. I just don't think the make-up of the middle east allows for it. As long as there are 16th century minded religious fanatics willing to kill anyone who doesn't think like them there can never be a democracy. The only survivable style of goverment for the middle east is authoritarian or dictatoral. Anything else and you have an Iraq of today.
Lebanon is a democracy or should I say a confessionalism style of goverment. Look where that is at. The terrorist army is stronger and better equipped then the goverments army. There is a state within a state. The place is heading for another open civil war as we speak. The real pisser is that Israel has done more to ferment it with their joke assualt or whatever it was supposed to be because they totally underestimated the enemy (which seems to be a common occurance in today's world).
I could go on but I have to read the "Farm" book to my two year old granddaughter

I totally agree with bradclark1's statement regarding the middle east; when you have a hot bed of religion and fanaticism mixed together, there is no room for democracy.

[Syxx_Killer]

For those who want to see a leaked video of the hanging here it is. The video quality is rather poor. Someone had posted this on another forum.

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[TteFAboB]

The pathetic camera-man makes it look like a cheap B-movie.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Abraham

The problem with letting the Iraqi's fight it out between themselves is that many Iraqi' groups have close ties with neighbouring countries, which might be tempted or forced to intervene. Major Middle East countries like Egypth and Saudi Arabia are trying to keep the situation under control.

Furthermore an uncontrolled 'burn-out' in Iraq might result in a bonfire for the whole world, given the Middle East oil that the West and recently also the East depend upon for its economic survival.

I fear that a controlled 'burn out' is the lesser of all evils for Iraq...

Aren't Saudi's unofficialy financing the sunni's?
I can't really remember hearing anything about Eygypt.
Speaking of oil... In 2005 Iraq was pumping out nearly 2,000,000 barrels a day. Didn't find anything for 2006. Where is all the money going?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

The pathetic camera-man makes it look like a cheap B-movie.

Yup, I would´ve liked to have some cool special effects on the background... :rotfl:

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

The pathetic camera-man makes it look like a cheap B-movie.

I'll dock his pay. It's so hard to find good people nowadays.

[Camaero]

At least now South Park will make sense with Saddam in hell hanging out with satan right?

[Type941]

They US special forces should have shot him in his hiding hole when they found him, not do this f*cking farce of a trial for 2 years and parade it all in the end as a result of democracy triumph over barbarism.

This whole thing makes me uneasy and one more time demotes the value of any human life in a country where it is already down to nothing. All newspapers and sites with graphical images of a man hanged. I'm sorry, i cant have any joy in watching this. I just dont care. These people should be put away without any glory...

In all honesty, hussein should have been neutraized 15 years ago.

Dont get me wrong, the man was guilty of lots of things and probably didnt deserve to live, but that should have been decided by an international court or smth. But since US strongly avoided doing that, there must have been legal reasons that could have allowed saddam to walk away free had he been tried anywhere but in Iraq. Eh.

Another fact is I am not personally attached to anyone in iraq, and cant feel the pain of those who suffered under his rule. For example when this NurPashi Kulaev was sentenced to life in Russia as only survivor of Beslan, I really would have rather seen him hung, or shot or blown up. So obviously the feeling of happiness in Iraq should be high for many.

I dont understand their culture at all though. Its so ****ed up now. But I reckon it has degraded to what it is because of Saddam. So what's done is right, the way it is shown and handled is just probably tastless. Then again, how can you show this tastefully.

[baggygreen]

Quite frankly, i think its a good thing. I only wish it had come sooner.

As regards the politicism of the whole thing, and the 'what next' question in the ME, there is something that irks me about liberals who say that we only need open markets and free trade to make everybody get along. That something is that its not a sense of 'fairness' or anything similar that the militants fight for. Giving them free trade and whatnot to appease them would likely end up with them obtaining more arms more easily. These people are completely opposed to anything and anyone who is not following their own belief structure. Conversion or death are the only two options available to all the 'infidels'. Unfortunately for everybody, they will not be appeased, regardless of what you throw at them.

The west and for that matter the rest, need to toughen up a heck of a lot in order to successfully reduce the threat posed by these radicals. My personal belief is that this clash has been coming for 60 years or more and nothing can have avoided it. Liberals believe that its only the result of US hard diplomacy over the past 20. Regardless, the fact remains that it needs to be dealt with and because of the psyche of these people, appeasement isnt the way.

thats my ooooo 9 or 10 cents worth there. I could keep going with historical comparisons and both religious and cultural reasons for the inevitability of this coming (here?) global conflict but that is my line of work and i dont like bringing work home

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by Syxx_Killer

For those who want to see a leaked video of the hanging here it is. The video quality is rather poor. Someone had posted this on another forum.

That made me wretch

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

That made me wretch

You are, evidently, not the only one.

Again, we will not be posting or linking to pictures or films of this event. Google them yourselves if you wish.

Last chance.

[STEED]

I'm not sure why you guys would want to see the hanging? Strikes me as ghoulish.

[August]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

That made me wretch

So why did you click on the link?

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by STEED

I'm not sure why you guys would want to see the hanging? Strikes me as ghoulish.

It's human curiosity. People will watch it then say "Oh, people shouldn't watch it it's so terrible." which just draws people like bee's to the honey pot so they can see just how terrible it is and say "people shouldn't watch it it's terrible" which draws even more people.
Or, a lot of people watch NASCAR in the hope of seeing a great wreck.
It's just human nature.
If your or my country televised executions that stations ratings would be the the highest in television history. People would say how terrible and ghoulish it was but you can bet your boots they'll be watching the next one too.
Human nature.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by August

So why did you click on the link?

:rotfl: :rotfl: