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Old 07-05-21, 01:47 PM   #7456
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Old 07-06-21, 09:41 AM   #7457
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Data from Israel and for Israel show that the Biontech vaccine after the second jab has still reduced protection against catching the infeciton of around 64%, however, the second jab protects against serious causes and hospitalizations with a probability of 93% - and that is what the vaccination has alwas been about in the first. You can still get ifnected - but you do not get brought down by it.

Without the seocnd jab, the protection is just small.

Earlier The Lancet posted a study showing that two jabs by Biontech protect against the Indian Delta variation with a probability of 88% and protect against serious causes and hospitalization with a probability of 96%.

Meanwhile, a new variant, named Lambda, causes concern at the WHO. It could be the next thing after Delta. It spread sin Latin America and is responsibole for a recent speedy outbreak in a Spanish region where Lambda is said to cause 80% of infections.

For Germany, the data models based on the Lancet and Israeli data mean that an effective herd immunty probably could not be reached with just 60-70% of the population being vaccinated, but that it needs to be 80% minimum. The RKI (the German CDC) even demands a minimum of 85%).
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Old 07-06-21, 10:01 AM   #7458
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How comes I am not surprised?



Heck, even my dentist asks for Vit-D levels and offers to check them.



No, industry and politics do not want you to know this. Like they do nto want you to know about Iodine, salt, Omega-3 vs. Omega-6, Q10, zinc, selenium... You being ill is more profitable for them than being healthy.



Listen to what your doctor tells you - butNEVER BLINDLY TRUST ANYTHING HE TELLS YOU. Educate yourself, recheck what he says, see how it fits into the bigger picture. He must not even have bad profit-greedy intentions, but simply may not have had the time to get additional knowledge injections into his brain since he studied. Becasue this is clear: at university, students of medicine do not hear much about these things, the industry is a heavy co-author of the curriculae. Any doctor may just be human.



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Old 07-06-21, 12:19 PM   #7459
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The second idiot has now been charged with Common Assault.

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A second man has been charged with common assault after England's chief medical officer Prof Chris Whitty was accosted in a London park.

Jonathan Chew, 24, from Chelmsford, Essex, was charged on Monday over the incident, which took place in St James's Park on 27 June.

Officers spoke to the uninjured victim and checked his welfare, a Met Police spokesman said.

They then reviewed video footage that emerged on social media.

Mr Chew was also charged with obstructing police and appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Tuesday afternoon.
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The second idiot has now been charged with Common Assault.
I dunno. You call him an idiot. Do you trust your chief medical officer (or *any* government official) to not be a petty tyrant concerned more with holding onto power than in actually doing things that benefit you and your fellow subjects?

Seems to me that the entire world could do with more autocrats catching a beating...
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The second idiot has now been charged with Common Assault.

That'll give them something to Chew on!
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Old 07-06-21, 01:29 PM   #7464
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I dunno. You call him an idiot. Do you trust your chief medical officer (or *any* government official) to not be a petty tyrant concerned more with holding onto power than in actually doing things that benefit you and your fellow subjects?

Seems to me that the entire world could do with more autocrats catching a beating...
No matter anyone's opinion my training taught me respect the position/uniform but not necessarily the individual and as Chief Medical Officer I would expect him to be respected.

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This is an informercial post.

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No matter anyone's opinion my training taught me respect the position/uniform but not necessarily the individual and as Chief Medical Officer I would expect him to be respected.



I would agree, if the person(s) were honorable but disagreeable. Nowadays, too many incompetent hacks fake it until they are placed in high positions where they can do the most damage with the fewest repercussions into themselves.

In the US, Fauci is likely the closest equivalent and that guy is a turd who deserves nothing but misery.
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What we have here is a case of double standards, if Whitty had been a normal citizen it wouldn't have even been attended to by any coppers, but he's not ordinary is he, he's a government man isn't he, and he's considered to be an untouchable asset by the powers that be.
Two idiots fooling around is not even worth a lecture on how to behave themselves on the streets of London, and something else as well, you will not see anyone else either this year or next being charged with common assault for fooling around with an ordinary citizen.
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Pearls of wisdom from Mr Whitty.

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Johnson, Whitty and Vallance on when they'll still wear face masks
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At PMQs Keir Starmer asks Boris Johnson if he is comfortable with the health secretary's suggestion there could be 100,000 cases a day.

The PM says scientists are “absolutely clear” the link between cases and deaths has been “severed” because of the vaccination programme.

Starmer says the delay in relaxing self-isolation rules for the fully-vaccinated will mean chaos and millions having to self-isolate.

From 16 August, fully-vaccinated adults in England will not have to self-isolate if they are a close contact of a case.

Under-18s will also no longer need to self-isolate from 16 August after contact with a positive case.

Those who test positive will still have to self-isolate whether they are vaccinated or not, though.

Boris Johnson will also be questioned on his Covid strategy by MPs later.

Two of the world's biggest airlines will trial fast-track lanes at Heathrow airport for fully-vaccinated arrivals.

Sydney residents will be in lockdown for another week as Australia's largest city fights to contain a Covid outbreak.
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Old 07-07-21, 08:48 AM   #7470
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[...] In the US, Fauci is likely the closest equivalent and that guy is a turd who deserves nothing but misery.
Which is your, not even Trump's, opinion.

But isn't critical race theory the boogeyman this week? Fauci was two weeks ago. Or was that transgender athletes? The 500 shootings last weekend? Climate change fake? Hard to keep up with whom to blame.
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