Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Jimbuna]

Moscow closing army draft offices

Moscow has met its targets for the "partial mobilisation" declared by President Vladimir Putin in September and Russian army draft offices in the city will be shut down later today, its mayor says.

Sergei Sobyanin also said mobilisation orders issued during the drive have become void. Should this apply to other Russian regions, it would mean that the tens of thousands of draft-dodgers who fled Russia in recent weeks could officially be in the clear.

Mobilisation had become an "ordeal for thousands of Moscow families", the mayor said, but added that thanks to the "responsibility, sense of duty and patriotism of Muscovites" the task of partial mobilisation was fulfilled.

Addressing recruits, Sobyanin said in a statement: "We are all worried and concerned about your fate, about the difficulties and dangers that lie ahead of you and that you are already facing. We hope and pray that you return safe and sound. Return with victory. Having defended the security and independence of our country."

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

President Zelensky says Russia launched drone and missile attacks across Ukraine "all night and all morning" trying to "terrorise" civilians.

Three people have been killed and others injured, after Kyiv was hit by "kamikaze drones", authorities say.

And three people have died after a rocket attack in north-eastern Sumy region, the governor there says.

Frantic rescue work is going on in the centre of Kyiv after buildings were damaged, our correspondent Paul Adams reports.

The captial reverberated to the rattle of gunfire in the morning as anti-aircraft batteries tried to shoot down the drones.

At least 19 people were killed in a wave of Russian missile strikes on the capital a week ago.

Russia has increasingly been using Iranian-made drones to hit critical civilian infrastructure.

[Jimbuna]

Metropolitan patrolmen shoot down kamikaze drone with assault rifles. VIDEO

Oleksiy Bilo****sky, the first deputy chief of the Patrol Police Department, published a video in which the capital’s police officers are trying to shoot down one of the kamikaze drones that fell on Kyiv today.

As reported by Censor.NET, the video shows a group of five policemen shooting upwards with assault rifles.

"Shahid suffered a negative impact. Thank you for your service! And only forward!", Bilo****sky wrote in the comment. Source: https://censor.net/en/v3374288

[Jimbuna]

5 ships with 122.3 thousand tons of agricultural products left ports of Odesa for the countries of Africa, Asia and Europe, - Ministry of Infrastructure. PHOTOS

As part of the "Grain Initiative", 5 ships with 122.3 thousand tons of agricultural products left the ports of Odesa for the countries of Africa, Asia, and Europe.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the Telegram of the Ministry of Infrastructure of Ukraine.

Among them is the NEW LIBERTY bulker, which will deliver 25,000 tons of wheat to Kenya. Bulk carrier CHOLA TREASURE will deliver 61.8 thousand tons of rape to Pakistan.

Since the beginning of the implementation of the "Grain Initiative", 350 ships with 7.8 million tons of agricultural products left the ports of Odesa for the countries of Asia, Europe, and Africa. Source: https://censor.net/en/p3374280

[Exocet25fr]

https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-90-p...pinion-1743061

[Skybird]

Der Spiegel writes:
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The well-known journalist Marina Ovsyannikova has left Russia accompanied by her daughter. Her lawyer Dmitry Sakhatov told the AFP news agency. "They are now in Europe. They are doing well."

Ovsyannikova became internationally known in mid-March when, during a live broadcast by her employer, a station loyal to the Kremlin, she held up a protest poster to the camera behind the news anchor against the military campaign in Ukraine.

"Stop the war, no war," she shouted several times at the time, holding a placard reading "No war" in English to the camera. Underneath, in Russian, it read, "Stop the war. Don't believe the propaganda. You are being lied to here". Then in English again "Russians against the war". For a few seconds the woman could be seen with her placard, then images of a hospital were superimposed.

Before fleeing abroad, Ovsyannikova left the apartment where she was under house arrest in Russia, according to her lawyer. The journalist will publicly comment on her escape at a later date, "but at the moment it is not safe," Zakhatov said.

Two weeks ago, Ovsyannikova had been placed on a wanted list in Russia, suggesting that the 44-year-old had gone into hiding. Ovsyannikova had been indicted in August for "spreading false information" about the Russian army. She faces up to ten years in prison. A Moscow court placed the journalist under house arrest, which was to last until the start of her trial. She was also not allowed to use any means of communication.

In the meantime, Ovsyannikova had been staying in Germany, where she worked for the newspaper "Welt." She then returned to Russia in July to fight for custody of her two minor children, which her ex-husband, who lives in Russia, wanted to take away from her. She continued her criticism of the Russian offensive in Ukraine.
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[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Exocet25fr

https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-90-p...pinion-1743061

Our most promising solution to this dilemma is likely to be some sort of diplomatic compromise.

^ Really? I beg to differ. Der Spiegel writes:
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Hardly anyone "reads" Vladimir Putin and the Russians as knowledgeably as the Russian writer Viktor Yerofeyev, who fled to Germany. Germany's chancellor should meet with him. And be prepared for some unpleasant truths.


A street thug, used to winning, cannot be appeased. Late at night, when you're going for a walk around the block, he suddenly confronts you and, with cold eyes and a calm voice, demands your watch.

If you give it to him, he demands your wallet. If you refuse, he beats you up. Putin's war asks us how to deal with a street thug.

Olaf Scholz should ask Viktor Yerofeyev for a meeting or two to let him explain the Russians and Putin. Because Jerofejew is brilliant, both as an author and as a distanced contemporary witness. Distant here means "at a distance" in a double sense.

For Yerofeyev fled Russia in the spring in his BMW X 5 with his wife Katya and his two children Maja and Marianna. It was easy for the small family to leave Russia, but all the more difficult to get past the Finnish border officials and into Europe.

Read the bitterly humorous text that Jerofejew wrote about this in the "FAZ". Olaf Scholz lives in a world in which conflicts are moderated into compromises. The method for this is permanent negotiation.

But can this method, which might suffice when dealing with Robert Habeck and Christian Lindner and Friedrich Merz, be transferred to Vladimir Putin? To someone who doesn't want to negotiate at all, but only ever wants to win?

Whose only idea of existence is precisely this, in the logic of rulership, and has always existed only as a youth, then when he acquired his black belt, in the KGB, and finally as a despot - at first against his will, because Putin would rather have become the head of Gazprom than the head of the Russians. The Russians willingly follow him. Why, actually?

The Russian people have a different idea of happiness than the European peoples, and that's where the misunderstanding about Putin begins. Europeans, compared to Russians, live around a quiet middle - in mediocrity.

Russians, on the other hand, love the intemperate, they have found happiness by whistling at every norm. Yerofeyev: "When you drink vodka, you drink until you pass out. When you party, you party until the doctor comes. If you fight, you fight until someone drops dead.

The main thing is to put yourself in a state of consciousness in which life appears as a foolish hustle and bustle and at the same time as a victory over all other forms of existence. An inferiority complex and a complex of superiority over all other peoples produce a casus belli, the prelude to a bestial war without rules."

Can Putin be more accurately described? And the fact that the Russians are carrying him? Tens of thousands have fled from him, many liberals among them. Running away is one way to escape a street thug.

In this regard, we are just being lectured about obvious differences in mentality: In Iran, at any rate, the uprising against the mullahs is far larger and louder and more powerful than in Russia the resistance to Putin, if there is one.

Russia has, once again, as so often in its history, as Yerofeyev regretfully analyzes it, "freed itself" from universally valid humanistic values, replacing them with the "half-baked ideas of the superiority of our backyard over the whole world."

The backyard, that is Putin's homeland. His semi-strong ideology and that of "his" Russians: "We are better than all others." And why? "Because!"
Yerofeyev is old, educated and of privileged origin

It is the "wisdom" of the underprivileged, criminal suburbanite, in Russian: "gopnik." That's why the novel Yerofeyev completed about Vladimir Putin, which will be published around the turn of the year, is called "The Great Gopnik."

The Russia that many Germans admire, revere, romanticize, the land of Chekhov and Dostoevsky and Pasternak, however, only appealed to the West. But not in its own country, especially not in the Russian provinces. It is from there that Putin draws his support.


Russian "values," the successful writer analyzes, are tied to social standing - nobles, peasants, officers, working class - fragmented worlds. "That is why we are not a nation, but an exceedingly archaic people." Which gives the most space to its survival and thus upholds what helps the most in that:

Strength, cunning, lack of empathy, suspicion, distrust, cynicism. Shooting missiles at hospitals is as contrary to our values as it is to Putin's values. Russians will hardly be surprised by this - they know such nefariousness from Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, finally Ukraine since 2014.

Stations of Putin's victories; a single unconscionable trail of blood. And the dictator always got away with it, even among his own people. In one of his texts, Yerofeyev says that Russia is giving Ukraine hell "with an honest heart.

The war is Putin's element, corresponds to his existence since the backyard days in Leningrad, today's Petersburg. For German ears and brains, quite conditioned to pacifism, this is a disturbing message.

So will Putin use nuclear weapons? Yes, certainly, says Yerofeyev, if he has to fear humiliation, this is his last option. Victory or downfall - we Germans know this from Hitler. When the American atomic bomb detonated over Hiroshima on August 6, Germany had already capitulated.

Now that nuclear weapons are in the world, can there be any hope for the West? Yes, says Yerofeyev, and it has a name: "The only person Putin listens to is Comrade Xi," the writer said yesterday on Anne Will.

For people who, used to democracy, dream of a better world, this may be a difficult idea: The only hope against the second strongest dictator in the world would then be the strongest dictator in the world. Backyard thug logic.



--- Yerofeyev is 75 years old and educated and of privileged origin. His father was Stalin's personal interpreter, then embassy counselor, which is how Yerofeyev came to Paris for years. Those who grow up at a distance from their own countrymen may understand them better. ---
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[mapuc]

It's London and other British cities during -43-44 and 45. Where citizens had to fear V1 and V2 rockets from Nazi-Germany.

Today it's these kamikaze drones from Iran who are being used against civilians in Ukrainian cities.

One have hope that the weapon they are getting from Israel can shot them down before doing any major harm.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

If this is the calibre of the average Russian conscript then Ukrain can certainly have hope of saving herself.

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

Time has come to apply sanctions against Iran for supply of weapons to Russian Federation, - Kuleba

Ukraine will demand international sanctions against Iran due to the Russian army’s use of Iranian-made kamikaze drones.

This was stated by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmytro Kuleba, Censor.NET informs.

"The patient broke down. We listened to different explanations, and different arguments for a very long time, but you cannot hide the truth, and this truth flew into the houses of the city of Kyiv today. Therefore, the time has come to apply sanctions against Iran for the supply of weapons to the Russian Federation," the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry emphasized.

According to Kuleba, these sanctions should be a signal for all countries to which Russia applies for military assistance.

In addition, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine announced the start of work on the ninth package of EU sanctions against Russia. According to him, among the new restrictions on the Russian Federation, one can expect the disconnection of its new banks from the SWIFT system.

"Today I told my European colleagues very simple words: that neither Ukrainians nor EU citizens can afford to be tired. Just as we cannot tire of fighting for our state, European security and prosperity, they also cannot tire of applying sanctions," - the minister emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374335

[Jimbuna]

[mapuc]

Regarding the video in #7395 which was posted by Jim and was on how an nuclear war in Ukraine may look like.

He said Germany, South Korea and Japan does not have nukes but are under US umbrella protection.

I think to remove any doubt of fear if or when Putin decide to use nukes in Ukraine, maybe US should extend this umbrella protection to cover Ukraine too.

Sending a clear signal to Putin a nuclear attack on Ukraine will be seen as an attack on US.

The same should be with Biological and Chemical weapon.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Russia may launch nuclear strike to impose peace on Ukraine on its own terms - German intelligence

Russia may use tactical nuclear weapons to impose a "dictated peace" on Ukraine, but so far there are no signs of preparations for this scenario.

This was stated by the head of the Federal Intelligence Service of Germany, Bruno Kahl, at a hearing in the Bundestag, reports Censor.NET with reference to LIGA.

According to Kal, the Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's attack on Ukraine "did not come as a surprise" to his service.

He noted that Putin "reserves the right" to use nuclear weapons and emphasized that "it may come to the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine."

"Then they will seek to impose a dictated peace on Ukraine. On the Russian side, there are no signs of readiness to compromise in possible negotiations with Ukraine," Kal said.

The intelligence officer believes that defeat in the war against Ukraine from the Russian perspective could "pose an existential threat to Putin's rule", but his service has no indication that Russia plans to use strategic or tactical nuclear weapons. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374341