Steve's Models - Page 49

Buddahaid · 12-13-14, 07:36 PM

Sometimes I have days like that and just seem to drop, or knock over, everything I touch. Then I wonder why I put myself in these situations only to find out there's usually nothing else I'd rather be doing. Oh well. Tomorrow will be better.

Aktungbby · 12-13-14, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Sometimes I have days like that and just seem to drop, or knock over, everything I touch. Then I wonder why I put myself in these situations only to find out there's usually nothing else I'd rather be doing. Oh well. Tomorrow will be better.

Waita sec!...;Jeff falls down the stairs. My captain wipes out a stanchion on the ship o' fools; Steve drops a plane; I fall on my own 1/2 step; and you have bad gravity days...all in the same week....I GOT IT...

Sailor Steve · 12-14-14, 09:19 PM

Today was better. I got all the struts back in and replaced the missing one, then got the entire port side rigged. It should be done by Tuesday.

Sailor Steve · 12-18-14, 09:35 PM

Well, it took two more days than I had hoped, but the A.E.G. C.IV is finished. Not the best I've done by a long shot, but it'll do.

Sailor Steve · 12-19-14, 05:53 PM

Next Project is an Aviatik C.III, from a resin kit.

This one has caused me no end of headaches. There is almost no information on the plane. My older books have information that seems to be wrong, and Windsock Magazine never did a Datafile on it. The Datafile on the Pfalz Eindekkers quotes an interview they did with an old German crewman, who said "The old Aviatiks were white." Ray Rimmel, who is probably the leading expert on such things, says that there was an experimental phase during which German planes might be clear linen, white or pale blue. Other people disagree, saying they were probably all Clear Doped Linen. Some of the photographs look white to me, but I'm no expert.

I just purchased a copy of Aviatik Aircraft of WWI, by Jack Herris. He doesn't really cover the color controversy, but he does have the actual serial numbers for each production run, which at least makes it easy for me to make the decals with the right numbers.

This brings up a new problem. When I built my Aviatik C.I I said that older sources said that most of them had the observer in front, which limited the rear firing arc but also let them fire forward. Older sources said that the early C.IIIs were also set up that way but most of them had the observer in the rear. Herris says that is true, but not in the way most people expect. There were two production runs of 25 aircraft each, and all 50 of them had the observer forward. The final production run, in 1917, was 200 aircraft, and they all had the observer in the rear. The problem is that they were all ordered as trainers, and had that set-up because the newer planes they were training to fly on were configured that way. All the photographs of the first 50 show the guns in front, so he's probably right.

This means that now I not only have to convert the plane, because the model is based on the only survivor, 12250/17, which is in a museum in Poland, but I have to change it in the rules, and that means that I'm building models of a plane no one will ever want to take, because there are better options available. Oh well. I'm much too pedantic and much too fixed on historical reality to fake it.

Titanicgeek · 12-19-14, 10:37 PM

That looks nice! I only built one model and its a model of the RMS Queen Mary.

-Titanicgeek on stand by!

Sailor Steve · 12-20-14, 10:06 PM

Welcome to my obsession, Titanicgeek.

Well, one of them anyway.

Sailor Steve · 12-20-14, 10:07 PM

Interior finished. I reversed the cockpit floor to facilitate puting the observer in front and the pilot in back.

Aktungbby · 12-20-14, 10:36 PM

R U going with the two- gun observer forward position one on each side of the engine?

Edit just found this-sort of rare as most of the shots are of the port side

Sailor Steve · 12-21-14, 02:01 AM

Apparently that was the case for all 50 combat models, so yes, it'll be just like my model of the C.I.

Sailor Steve · 12-21-14, 07:49 PM

Fuselage together, lower wings and tail mounted.

Sailor Steve · 12-22-14, 07:25 PM

Landing gear and tail supports installed. I had hoped to get a coat of paint on it as well, but I had other stuff to do, so it has to wait until tomorrow.

Sailor Steve · 12-23-14, 08:51 PM

Cabanes mounted, first primer coat on.

Sailor Steve · 12-25-14, 09:52 PM

I sprayed another coat of lichtgrau for the metal parts and upper deck today. After it was dry I did the fabric. My Aviatik C.I was pure white, based on the comments I mentioned earlier. Some people disagree with that assessment. The one in the museum is tan, but it looks painted to me, and not like doped fabric. I got to wondering just how "white" white might be. If the fabric was bleached it might be almost white; enough to draw comments but not really pure white. I started mixing and got it lighter and lighter. Then I sprayed it and thought it was too white. Rather than add just a couple drops of tan I put in too much for my liking, and then I was out of white and I'm not going to wait until I can buy some more. It's a little darker than I wanted, but still I call it "Not Quite White."

em2nought · 12-27-14, 09:38 PM

Gah, I can't stand it I want to play Rise of Flight, and Wings over Flanders Fields, and Canvas Eagles, and build card model Albs and pups, and build a Graham Lee Nieuport, and, and, and...

12-13-14, 07:36 PM	#721
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,940 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Sometimes I have days like that and just seem to drop, or knock over, everything I touch. Then I wonder why I put myself in these situations only to find out there's usually nothing else I'd rather be doing. Oh well. Tomorrow will be better. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

12-14-14, 09:19 PM	#723
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Today was better. I got all the struts back in and replaced the missing one, then got the entire port side rigged. It should be done by Tuesday. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-18-14, 09:35 PM	#724
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Well, it took two more days than I had hoped, but the A.E.G. C.IV is finished. Not the best I've done by a long shot, but it'll do. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-19-14, 05:53 PM	#725
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Next Project is an Aviatik C.III, from a resin kit. This one has caused me no end of headaches. There is almost no information on the plane. My older books have information that seems to be wrong, and Windsock Magazine never did a Datafile on it. The Datafile on the Pfalz Eindekkers quotes an interview they did with an old German crewman, who said "The old Aviatiks were white." Ray Rimmel, who is probably the leading expert on such things, says that there was an experimental phase during which German planes might be clear linen, white or pale blue. Other people disagree, saying they were probably all Clear Doped Linen. Some of the photographs look white to me, but I'm no expert. I just purchased a copy of Aviatik Aircraft of WWI, by Jack Herris. He doesn't really cover the color controversy, but he does have the actual serial numbers for each production run, which at least makes it easy for me to make the decals with the right numbers. This brings up a new problem. When I built my Aviatik C.I I said that older sources said that most of them had the observer in front, which limited the rear firing arc but also let them fire forward. Older sources said that the early C.IIIs were also set up that way but most of them had the observer in the rear. Herris says that is true, but not in the way most people expect. There were two production runs of 25 aircraft each, and all 50 of them had the observer forward. The final production run, in 1917, was 200 aircraft, and they all had the observer in the rear. The problem is that they were all ordered as trainers, and had that set-up because the newer planes they were training to fly on were configured that way. All the photographs of the first 50 show the guns in front, so he's probably right. This means that now I not only have to convert the plane, because the model is based on the only survivor, 12250/17, which is in a museum in Poland, but I have to change it in the rules, and that means that I'm building models of a plane no one will ever want to take, because there are better options available. Oh well. I'm much too pedantic and much too fixed on historical reality to fake it. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo Last edited by Sailor Steve; 12-22-14 at 07:21 PM.

12-19-14, 10:37 PM	#726
Titanicgeek Watch Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: California Posts: 22 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Whoa That looks nice! I only built one model and its a model of the RMS Queen Mary. -Titanicgeek on stand by!

12-20-14, 10:06 PM	#727
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Welcome to my obsession, Titanicgeek. Well, one of them anyway. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-20-14, 10:07 PM	#728
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Interior finished. I reversed the cockpit floor to facilitate puting the observer in front and the pilot in back. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-20-14, 10:36 PM	#729
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 28,594 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	R U going with the two- gun observer forward position one on each side of the engine? Edit just found this-sort of rare as most of the shots are of the port side __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe" Last edited by Aktungbby; 12-21-14 at 12:24 PM.

12-21-14, 02:01 AM	#730
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Apparently that was the case for all 50 combat models, so yes, it'll be just like my model of the C.I. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-21-14, 07:49 PM	#731
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Fuselage together, lower wings and tail mounted. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-22-14, 07:25 PM	#732
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Landing gear and tail supports installed. I had hoped to get a coat of paint on it as well, but I had other stuff to do, so it has to wait until tomorrow. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-23-14, 08:51 PM	#733
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Cabanes mounted, first primer coat on. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-25-14, 09:52 PM	#734
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I sprayed another coat of lichtgrau for the metal parts and upper deck today. After it was dry I did the fabric. My Aviatik C.I was pure white, based on the comments I mentioned earlier. Some people disagree with that assessment. The one in the museum is tan, but it looks painted to me, and not like doped fabric. I got to wondering just how "white" white might be. If the fabric was bleached it might be almost white; enough to draw comments but not really pure white. I started mixing and got it lighter and lighter. Then I sprayed it and thought it was too white. Rather than add just a couple drops of tan I put in too much for my liking, and then I was out of white and I'm not going to wait until I can buy some more. It's a little darker than I wanted, but still I call it "Not Quite White." __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-27-14, 09:38 PM	#735
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,461 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Gah, I can't stand it I want to play Rise of Flight, and Wings over Flanders Fields, and Canvas Eagles, and build card model Albs and pups, and build a Graham Lee Nieuport, and, and, and... __________________ em2nought is weird