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Old 04-19-25, 10:43 AM   #7231
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Only to blame Ukraine if orders do not reach everybody on the fronts, and they broke it already.
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At 17:15, Russian strike drones were detected in our skies. Ukrainian air defence and aviation have already begun working to protect us. Shaheds in our skies — that’s Putin’s real attitude toward Easter and human life.
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Old 04-19-25, 10:47 AM   #7232
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Can't say I'm in the least bit surprised
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Old 04-19-25, 04:00 PM   #7233
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Putin is scattering a trail of breadcrumbs for Trump - to where he wants him.
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Old 04-19-25, 10:18 PM   #7234
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I honestly believe that poo-tin is satin's right hand man! Pure evil.
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Old 04-20-25, 01:19 AM   #7235
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Is it normal that during a cease fire, not all troops have yet received the official order?

I know we are 2025. They should have perfect communication with the chain of command. But if you see the current state on how they are fighting...
(WW1 trench like state) i doubt it.

Maybe some local commanders still didn't received the orders? or with a delay?

I think in every war we know, there were ALWAYS broken deals during the cease fire.
Because of miscommunication or they just don't care. Or both sides find any good reason to ignore the cease fire (the other side did something suspicious)
If there is an official surrender, or a official peace deal. Everybody needs to stop shooting and release the POW's, but during a cease fire.
Especially a temporary cease fire. Both parties will always do things in there advantage.
And what is seen as a cease fire? Does supplying ammunition and reinforcing defensive positions fall under ''cease fire''?


''oh look its a temporary cease fire, but they are getting new ammunition, and they are preparing themselves for a next assault. Should we do something?''
''No,we have orders, its a cease fire, we just watch and do noting''
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'' Screw the cease fire, we have a reason to shoot at them''

I never take these temporary cease fires for real. There is still a war going on. So you can never guarantee the cease fire.
Both sides Ukrainian military and Russian military will disrespect the cease fire.

The only good thing about a temporary cease fire, is that both sides have the time and safety to take care of there wounded.

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Old 04-20-25, 04:44 AM   #7236
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There is no question of Russia laying down its arms. Not because local officers have not received or understood the order, on the whole front Russia is firing with all types of weapons on Ukrainian fronts and civilians. Russian attacks on various places on the frontline continue, and Russian artillery fire has not stopped yet either. There is no Russian ceasefire!

But if Russia is actually willing to abide by the proposed unilateral truce, so is Ukraine, Zelenskyy argues. ‘If there really is a complete ceasefire, Ukraine proposes to extend it until after Easter,’ Zelenskyy said. According to Zelenskyy, Russia's failure for the time being to accept a proposal for a longer ceasefire shows ‘Putin's true intentions’. ‘Thirty hours is enough to make headlines, but not for really confidence-building measures. In thirty days, peace could have a chance.’
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Russians are using the ceasefire to de-mine, regroup, and prepare for the next assault, that's all.
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We are ready for 30 days of complete silence if Russia is mutually ready for it, but there is no response from Moscow, - Sybiha

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Ukraine is ready to extend the "Easter truce" for up to 30 days, but the Russians are not responding to this proposal.

This was stated by Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha, Censor.NET reports.

"Regarding the so-called "Easter ceasefire," we have not yet heard Moscow's response to our proposal to extend the truce for up to 30 days. Despite a slight decrease in combat activity yesterday and today, Russian troops continue to attack Ukrainian positions. Ukraine is responding appropriately and responsibly, and we are reciprocating both the fire where it occurs and the silence where it remains," Sybiha said.

The minister emphasized that the main issue is that yesterday Ukraine offered to extend the ceasefire after midnight if Russia reciprocated. However, no response has been heard from Moscow.

"Russia's actions after midnight, tomorrow and throughout the week will show Russia's true attitude to the US peace efforts and the proposal for a full 30-day ceasefire. They will show whether Russia is serious about peace or whether Putin's statements yesterday were just manipulations," the Foreign Minister summarized.

Putin's announcement of an "Easter truce"
As a reminder, on April 19, Russian dictator Vladimir Putin allegedly announced an Easter truce that would be in effect from 6 p.m. Moscow time on April 19 until zero o'clock on April 21.

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy reacted to Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's announcement of the so-called Easter truce by saying that it was another of Putin's attempts to play with people's lives.

Later, President Zelenskyy said that if Russia is now ready to really join the format of complete and unconditional silence, Ukraine will act in a mirror image - silence in response to silence, strikes in defense of strikes.

On April 20, Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that the Kremlin dictator had not ordered the truce to be extended. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3547819
Lipavsky on Putin’s "Easter Truce": It’s like going on hunger strike and secretly eating candy

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Czech Foreign Minister Jan Lipavsky commented on the so-called "Easter truce" announced by Russian dictator Vladimir Putin. The minister doubts that Russia wants to end the war against Ukraine at all.

His statement was quoted by CNN Prima NEWS, Censor.NET reported.

Lipavsky criticized Russia's failure to comply with the "Easter truce" declared by Russia itself.

"It's like going on a hunger strike between breakfast and lunch and continuing to eat candy in secret... We see that the shelling continues. Ukraine reports that a number of attacks have taken place, so the ceasefire announced in this way is more of a media stunt than a reality," the Czech Foreign Minister said.

The diplomat also noted that the aggressor country refuses to agree to a 30-day truce, which Ukraine has already agreed to.

"Putin never agreed to it and started putting forward other conditions. We have to look at reality, not words," Lipavsky said.

He also expressed doubt that Russia even wants to end the war it started against Ukraine.

"If Russia didn't want the war, it wouldn't have started it. So now the only chance is for Ukraine to successfully defend itself, so that Russia cannot achieve its goals militarily. We see that they have not managed to destroy Ukraine in three years. But it is possible that a situation will arise when Russia will be ready to negotiate a ceasefire," the diplomat said.
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Old 04-20-25, 12:23 PM   #7242
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Pentagon announces rotation of about 6000 troops in Eastern Europe

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The US Department of Defense has announced a planned rotation of two US brigades in Eastern Europe. Earlier, the media wrote about the possible reduction of the US army in Europe after Donald Trump' s return to the White House.

According to Censor.NET, this was reported by DW.

It is noted that the US Department of Defense has announced a planned rotation this summer of approximately six thousand US military personnel serving in Eastern Europe. This message was published on Friday, April 18.

According to this information, the 3rd Armored Brigade of the 1st Infantry Division will replace the 1st Armored Brigade of the 3rd Infantry Division in Europe. Several soldiers from the latter were recently killed in Lithuania during a training exercise.

In addition, the 1st Armored Brigade of the 1st Infantry Division of the US Army will replace the 3rd Armored Brigade of the 1st Armored Division in Europe.

The rotation will involve about 6,000 soldiers
According to the US military portal Task&Purpose, this is a planned rotation of about 6,000 US troops as part of Operation Atlantic Resolve. The United States and NATO have been conducting it since 2014. American soldiers are sent to serve for nine months in Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland, Romania, and the Baltic States.

On average, each US Army brigade has about 3-5 thousand soldiers. According to Task&Purpose, the 3rd Armored Brigade of the 1st Infantry Division, which is heading to Europe, has about 3,500 soldiers.

According to the U.S. European Command (Eucom), there are about 78,000 U.S. soldiers stationed in Europe, including about 37,000 in Germany. There are about 10 thousand in Poland.

The Pentagon has recently confirmed its intention to reduce the US military presence in Syria.

Recently, the Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces in Europe and NATO, General Christopher Cavoli , stated that he did not agree with the idea of withdrawing U.S. troops from the continent. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3547815
More and more European countries are considering financing Ukrainian defense instead of supplying weapons - WP

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More and more European countries are considering the model of injecting money into the Ukrainian defense industry instead of sending ready-made weapons.

This is stated in an article by The Washington Post, Censor.NET reports.

It is noted that there are doubts in Europe as to whether Europe will be able to fully compensate for the possible termination of American aid to Ukraine, especially air defense.

A European official, on condition of anonymity, told the publication that more and more European countries are considering a model of injecting money into the Ukrainian defense industry instead of sending ready-made weapons.

According to European representatives, this could speed up the provision of aid, as European stockpiles run out after sending weapons to Ukraine.

According to an unnamed European official, this strategy also allows NATO countries to use Ukraine as a kind of testing ground for weapons development and testing. This includes drones, in which NATO countries do not have the same experience as Ukrainians.

"It's a win-win. It is cheaper for us. They need to produce. And Ukrainians teach us a lot," the European official said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3547803
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Old 04-21-25, 12:15 AM   #7243
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More and more European countries are considering financing Ukrainian defense instead of supplying weapons - WP

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More and more European countries are considering the model of injecting money into the Ukrainian defense industry instead of sending ready-made weapons.

This is stated in an article by The Washington Post, Censor.NET reports.

It is noted that there are doubts in Europe as to whether Europe will be able to fully compensate for the possible termination of American aid to Ukraine, especially air defense.

A European official, on condition of anonymity, told the publication that more and more European countries are considering a model of injecting money into the Ukrainian defense industry instead of sending ready-made weapons.

According to European representatives, this could speed up the provision of aid, as European stockpiles run out after sending weapons to Ukraine.

According to an unnamed European official, this strategy also allows NATO countries to use Ukraine as a kind of testing ground for weapons development and testing. This includes drones, in which NATO countries do not have the same experience as Ukrainians.

"It's a win-win. It is cheaper for us. They need to produce. And Ukrainians teach us a lot," the European official said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3547803
Sounds like a good idea to me Jim!
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Old 04-21-25, 01:35 AM   #7244
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Wouldn't it be better to stop sending weapons and going for diplomacy to end this stupid war...

Europeans are wasting there money. Ukrainians are suffering for 3 years. And i guess some ordinary Russian civilians are kinda getting tired sending there children as draftees...

The more weapons you give. The longer the Ukranians will suffer. Especially since the US pulled back. Russia has the momentum.

Its almost impossible to regain all lost territory. In worst case Ukraine will lose more land. Russia suffers too. But they know they have the advantage and momentum. Even back home, i guess Russians are kinda calming down on protests. Because they feel the war will end soon in victory.


I know this potential defeat will come down hard for
Ukraine. Everyone would defend he's homeland at all costs.

But it kinda hurts me, seeing the war going on for years, to a point where its pointless. Thats why i hope they go for a peace deal. And the people stop getting killed...

I'm always been anti-war.
If you see Ukrainian and Russian draftees getting killed or heavily wounded with there guts spilling out, screaming for there mother... and the politicians staying behind there desk. You will understand what i mean...

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Old 04-21-25, 02:26 AM   #7245
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Wouldn't it be better to stop sending weapons and going for diplomacy to end this stupid war...
Poo-tin doesn't want to end the war, that's a fact.
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