Windows 10: What You Need to Know - Page 48

STEED · 03-30-16, 10:10 AM

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Steve Gibson's Never10 vs. Josh Mayfield's GWX Control Panel

http://www.infoworld.com/article/304...rol-panel.html

BTW: New GWX is out v.1.7.3.1

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

STEED · 03-30-16, 05:50 PM

Hi Folks you know I posted about a friend getting a Win8 laptop he has told me he got a email from Windows welcome to win8 and would he like to know more about upgrading to win10. How the hell did they get his email? This is news to me as I have never come across such a thing.

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Welcome to Windows 8.1
This is an email to help you get the most out of Windows. It will help you get familiar with Windows – to do more, more easily, than before.
If you’ve opted out of receiving email, this is the only email that you will receive other than mandatory communications.

vienna · 03-30-16, 06:40 PM

It's possible any number of ways. Did he buy or acquire the laptop online? Probably had to give his email address to do the buy; the seller could be a "partner" with MS who shares info (mailing lists, etc.) with MS. Did he send in a warranty card or something of the sort? Again, if it had an email address on it, MS could have gotten it that way. Seriously, the average internet user should have more concern about the non-governmental collection and sharing of data than they do of any government agencies; in point of fact, the governments don't have to exert much effort on an individual level to find out about us - all they have to do is go into the various commercial, educational, and other databases and mine away. People would be surprised how easy it is to assemble a rather detailed picture of their lives with data not in the government reach...

<O>

STEED · 03-30-16, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

It's possible any number of ways. Did he buy or acquire the laptop online? Probably had to give his email address to do the buy; the seller could be a "partner" with MS who shares info (mailing lists, etc.) with MS. Did he send in a warranty card or something of the sort? Again, if it had an email address on it, MS could have gotten it that way. Seriously, the average internet user should have more concern about the non-governmental collection and sharing of data than they do of any government agencies; in point of fact, the governments don't have to exert much effort on an individual level to find out about us - all they have to do is go into the various commercial, educational, and other databases and mine away. People would be surprised how easy it is to assemble a rather detailed picture of their lives with data not in the government reach...

<O>

Just been speaking him about did he have to use his email on setting up anyway he did say he bought it online from amazon uk so as he had no other dealing with MS I would assume that will be a one off email. I suggested if he gets more just block them, just shows how everything can be got hold of these days.

Catfish · 03-31-16, 06:01 AM

Since big companies like MS have a deal with their nation's secret services, there is not much that remains private, or anonymous.

And then there are the companies themselves, which sell your data , metadata and buying habits.

Certainly all to make you feel secure and well-cared for.

May have its advantages, ask your GCHQ if you harddisk fails, maybe they have a backup.

Rockin Robbins · 03-31-16, 07:42 AM

There are also random e-mails sent out to interest groups, for instance people who have registered a version of Windows. Most copies of Windows bought from retail outlets are pre-activated, but membership on any Microsoft website or its affiliates could subject you to random e-mails from Microsoft and/or affiliates.

Check that e-mail to see if there is an opt-out link. Opt-out links are kind of self-contradictory. If the company is unscrupulous, going to the site and opting out is just telling them "Yup! This here is a genuine real e-mail site. Bombs away there bub!"

However, I think that if this is a Microsoft e-mail, opting out is likely a legitimate operation. Then again, they DID just reset my option to forbid operating system upgrades...... I'd still opt-out.

STEED · 03-31-16, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Check that e-mail to see if there is an opt-out link.

Had a look at the email it contains links to how to do this and that along with video links and near to bottom Win10 sales pitch. No opt-out links found and no we did not try any of the links. I said just keep a eye on it and see how you go, probably was a one off welcome to win8 run of the mill emails.

Aktungbby · 04-01-16, 11:22 AM

JUST came into the mancave after breakfast to find my computer upgrading to WIN 10 without my say-so; I quickly killed the computer and the modem and the computer then announced restoring itself "to my previous system"-10 minutes of my life wasted there! Message came back: "upgrade incomplete". These buggers are getting awfully pushy. I especially don't like the band-wagon 'everyone else' approach to their marketing. My wife's new laptop has WIN10 so it's not like I'm without recourse to total joy...just not on my mancave's computer just yet, thanks .

STEED · 04-01-16, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

JUST came into the mancave after breakfast to find my computer upgrading to WIN 10 without my say-so; I quickly killed the computer and the modem and the computer then announced restoring itself "to my previous system"-10 minutes of my life wasted there! Message came back: "upgrade incomplete". These buggers are getting awfully pushy. I especially don't like the band-wagon 'everyone else' approach to their marketing. My wife's new laptop has WIN10 so it's not like I'm without recourse to total joy...just not on my mancave's computer just yet, thanks .

That is why I turned off auto updates use GWX and Spybot Anti beacon. MS has stuck a gun in everyone's head and pulled the trigger without giving a toot about their actions. Being offered Win10 is one thing but to have that forced on to you is a whole new ball game.

Aktungbby · 04-01-16, 12:58 PM

YIPES they just tried it again...must be the BORG! I'm being assimilated!

STEED · 04-01-16, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

YIPES they just tried it again...must be the BORG! I'm being assimilated!

Did you delete the - $WINDOWS.~BT folder

Get the GWX control panel

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

STEED · 04-01-16, 04:10 PM

Roll up roll up get your win10 patches yet again..

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For the second time this month, Microsoft pushed out three optional patches to grease the skids for Windows 10

http://www.infoworld.com/article/305...d-2977759.html

Rockin Robbins · 04-01-16, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Roll up roll up get your win10 patches yet again..

http://www.infoworld.com/article/305...d-2977759.html

Who would have thought that Groundhog Day was a prophetic movie?

aanker · 04-01-16, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Who would have thought that Groundhog Day was a prophetic movie?

One of my all time favorite films now has a bad taste because of KB305 & KB303 (5583) et.al (when I have KB patch numbers memorized, it's bad.)
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Originally Posted by Aktungbby YIPES they just tried it again...must be the BORG! I'm being assimilated!

Rockin Robbins · 04-02-16, 07:10 AM

Well, Aktungbby, the theme of this thread is that assimilation is not inevitable and you can successfully resist.

03-30-16, 06:40 PM	#708
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,528 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	It's possible any number of ways. Did he buy or acquire the laptop online? Probably had to give his email address to do the buy; the seller could be a "partner" with MS who shares info (mailing lists, etc.) with MS. Did he send in a warranty card or something of the sort? Again, if it had an email address on it, MS could have gotten it that way. Seriously, the average internet user should have more concern about the non-governmental collection and sharing of data than they do of any government agencies; in point of fact, the governments don't have to exert much effort on an individual level to find out about us - all they have to do is go into the various commercial, educational, and other databases and mine away. People would be surprised how easy it is to assemble a rather detailed picture of their lives with data not in the government reach... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

03-31-16, 06:01 AM	#710
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,934 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Since big companies like MS have a deal with their nation's secret services, there is not much that remains private, or anonymous. And then there are the companies themselves, which sell your data , metadata and buying habits. Certainly all to make you feel secure and well-cared for. May have its advantages, ask your GCHQ if you harddisk fails, maybe they have a backup. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

03-31-16, 07:42 AM	#711
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	There are also random e-mails sent out to interest groups, for instance people who have registered a version of Windows. Most copies of Windows bought from retail outlets are pre-activated, but membership on any Microsoft website or its affiliates could subject you to random e-mails from Microsoft and/or affiliates. Check that e-mail to see if there is an opt-out link. Opt-out links are kind of self-contradictory. If the company is unscrupulous, going to the site and opting out is just telling them "Yup! This here is a genuine real e-mail site. Bombs away there bub!" However, I think that if this is a Microsoft e-mail, opting out is likely a legitimate operation. Then again, they DID just reset my option to forbid operating system upgrades...... I'd still opt-out. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS Last edited by Rockin Robbins; 03-31-16 at 07:59 AM.

04-01-16, 11:22 AM	#713
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 28,036 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	pushy pushy JUST came into the mancave after breakfast to find my computer upgrading to WIN 10 without my say-so; I quickly killed the computer and the modem and the computer then announced restoring itself "to my previous system"-10 minutes of my life wasted there! Message came back: "upgrade incomplete". These buggers are getting awfully pushy. I especially don't like the band-wagon 'everyone else' approach to their marketing. My wife's new laptop has WIN10 so it's not like I'm without recourse to total joy...just not on my mancave's computer just yet, thanks . __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

04-01-16, 12:58 PM	#715
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 28,036 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	YIPES they just tried it again...must be the BORG! I'm being assimilated! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

04-02-16, 07:10 AM	#720
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Well, Aktungbby, the theme of this thread is that assimilation is not inevitable and you can successfully resist. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS