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Old 03-26-09, 12:10 AM   #6826
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Old 03-26-09, 05:14 AM   #6827
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Old 03-26-09, 10:57 AM   #6828
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Old 03-27-09, 05:27 AM   #6829
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Old 03-28-09, 06:10 AM   #6830
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Old 03-28-09, 07:02 AM   #6831
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Old 03-28-09, 09:30 AM   #6832
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Did you know Jim,that the Stuka's may have been the intended plane,but it actually wouldn't have worked,They're undercarriage was to flimsy according to Captain Eric 'winkle' Brown CBE,DSC,AFC,RN, who evaluated Nazi aircraft after the war,they wouldn't have stood up to repeated carrier landingsLike alot of Nazi ideas,nice idea,crap in practice
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Old 03-28-09, 09:53 AM   #6833
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If design limitations didn't ground em the RAF would have sharp enough
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Old 03-28-09, 01:38 PM   #6834
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Sorry to be O/T,but may I interest you in a book Jim? "Wings On My Sleeve" by Captain Eric 'Winkle' Brown,in the guiness book of records for flying more types of aircraft than any person ever(487),also for making more carrier deck landings than anyone ever,Arrested by the gestapo on the eve of war and released on the border without them realising he was an RAF reserveHe went on to do patrol's with the fleet air arm with the Malta convoys and did battle with the dreaded Condors,shooting down a few,loads more in the book.Its wonderful and I highly recomend it
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Old 03-28-09, 04:16 PM   #6835
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But a Spitfires landing gear won't stand up to deck landings, Yet the modified Seafire was a highly adept carrier fighter that went on to claim victories in the Korean conflict Stiffer landing gear, a beefed up chassis to stay together during hook landings, a bigger engine and the sea-stuka would have been a fine carrier aircraft
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Fat Herrman made sure Stuka's and any other sort of aircraft stayed well away from the Kreigsmarine.
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Old 03-29-09, 06:06 AM   #6838
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But a Spitfires landing gear won't stand up to deck landings, Yet the modified Seafire was a highly adept carrier fighter that went on to claim victories in the Korean conflict Stiffer landing gear, a beefed up chassis to stay together during hook landings, a bigger engine and the sea-stuka would have been a fine carrier aircraft
Exactly,highly modified,thats the killer,where as the allies had time to modify,the nazi's didn't,even as early as 1940 the nazi's new that the stuka would never cut the mustard as a carrier aircraft,hence 'winkle' brown finding of all things after the war,A Me109 with an arrester hook(even worse than the Stuka idea)and a FW190 with one fitted as well,better plane,still crap concept.Even 'winkle'Brown who did more carrier landings than anyone ever in the history of aviation accepted that the Seafire had its limitations,he was the chief test pilot that made the Seafire possible,but only cause he was so good,in the wrong,inexpierenced hands it was a killer!it had terrible stall problems and the nose was to long,also even with the wonderful engine up front it struggled for power if you got a wave on,hence the British trying out the idea of a 'Rubberfoam' deck where planes would land with no undercarriage Not untill the jet age did he belive you got a true carrier aircraft
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Fat Herrman made sure Stuka's and any other sort of aircraft stayed well away from the Kreigsmarine.
One of the problems highlighted by 'Winkle'Brown in his book,he got to interrogate 'Fat boy' as he was known to his jailers and found him sullen and difficult until he mentioned planes,then his eyes lit up and he would talk for hours!Refused to blame Hitler for anything and mostly blamed Bormman
for everything,Quite bizarre really.Brown flew everything that the Nazis had built after the war,his favourite was the Komet rocket plane,the sheer speed took his breath away and once airborne was a fine plane to fly
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