Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Otto Harkaman]

[Reece]

What a load of poop!!

[Ostfriese]

2021 vs 2025.

[Reece]

Amazing what worry can do to a person!

[Skybird]

Elon Musk blatantly and openly threatens Ukraine with the shutdown of Starlink. That would bring down their entire front, he said.


Furthermore, according to Musk, Ukraine's total defeat is inevitable. Well, for other reasons, namely the never sufficient supply of ammunition and weapons and the endless limitations of their operational powers, I have been saying somehtign similar for two years: too little to win, too much to die. That is Biden's and Scholzen's fault with their endless hesitations and limitations. In the first 12 months, they have screwed up and messed things up through and through. But unlike Musk, that doesn't make me rejoice , it makes me angry, and I'm not a smug pig like Musk either, calling the complete submission that Trump is de facto demanding a “peace”.

The deadliest poisonous snakes in the world do not live in Australia, as is often claimed, but in Washington.

Meanwhile reports from the Kursk region suggest that the Ukrainians are rapidly loosing ground. Their logistical situation is described to be desperate from bloggers of both sides, and Russia has pushed attacks and made several surprising offensive manouvers that pushed Ukrainians with their backs to the wall. If Kyiv hoped to keep Kurks at a bargaining chip at the negotiaton desk - it cannot be sure anymore to keep it.

In recent two weeks, Ukrainian morale is said to have suffered serious drops along the total frontline. They had to keep the Russians away, which was already tough in itself, but now they also must handle them Americans trying to stab them from behind, the active American support for and siding with the Russians seems to be the one drop that will cause the barrel to burst rather than overflow. Europe to the rescue - will be far too late.

[August]

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Elon Musk blatantly and openly threatens Ukraine with the shutdown of Starlink. That would bring down their entire front, he said.


Furthermore, according to Musk, Ukraine's total defeat is inevitable. Well, for other reasons, namely the never sufficient supply of ammunition and weapons and the endless limitations of their operational powers, I have been saying somehtign similar for two years: too little to win, too much to die. That is Biden's and Scholzen's fault with their endless hesitations and limitations. In the first 12 months, they have screwed up and messed things up through and through. But unlike Musk, that doesn't make me rejoice , it makes me angry, and I'm not a smug pig like Musk either, calling the complete submission that Trump is de facto demanding a “peace”.

The deadliest poisonous snakes in the world do not live in Australia, as is often claimed, but in Washington.

Meanwhile reports from the Kursk region suggest that the Ukrainians are rapidly loosing ground. Their logistical situation is described to be desperate from bloggers of both sides, and Russia has pushed attacks and made several surprising offensive manouvers that pushed Ukrainians with their backs to the wall. If Kyiv hoped to keep Kurks at a bargaining chip at the negotiaton desk - it cannot be sure anymore to keep it.

In recent two weeks, Ukrainian morale is said to have suffered serious drops along the total frontline. They had to keep the Russians away, which was already tough in itself, but now they also must handle them Americans trying to stab them from behind, the active American support for and siding with the Russians seems to be the one drop that will cause the barrel to burst rather than overflow. Europe to the rescue - will be far too late.

If Europe want Ukraine to win the war-Then they have to speed up the delivery of weapons and ammo and not to forget get ready to put boots on the ground.

They have been speaking a lot on the matter, that Ukraine has to win the war.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Elon Musk blatantly and openly threatens Ukraine with the shutdown of Starlink. That would bring down their entire front, he said.

Looky there,... A statement lifted from a larger conversation in order to use it for propaganda purposes in a pathetic attempt to paint the U.S. as siding with Russia. Does that crap actually work over there in Europe? You guys keep operating your foreign policy on wishful thinking, and you'll find yourselves on the outside looking in when reality smacks you upside the head.

[Jimbuna]

EU will continue to refuse Russian gas, - von der Leyen

The EU will continue to implement the plan to abandon Russian gas to achieve energy independence from Russia.

This was stated by the President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen, Censor.NET reports citing The Guardian.

She emphasized the need to avoid possible loopholes to circumvent sanctions.

According to her, the European Union remains committed to the plan to completely cut off Russian gas supplies.

Speaking in Brussels, she emphasized the importance of gradually phasing out Russian energy, noting that it is "absolutely necessary" to ensure the EU's energy independence.

"We have made progress, but we always see, of course, that there are loopholes that we have to be careful with and work on," von der Leyen added, pointing to the need for further work to ensure the effectiveness of sanctions against Russia. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3540165

Decision on EU’s role in peace agreement will be found in cooperation with Ukraine, - von der Leyen

The decision on security guarantees from the European Union in a future peace agreement for Ukraine will be found in close cooperation with the Ukrainian side.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said this at a press conference in Brussels on Sunday, answering journalists' questions about whether Ukraine has an accurate idea of what Europe can provide in any peace agreement ahead of the talks in Saudi Arabia next week, Censor.NET reports citing Interfax-Ukraine.

As you know, one of the elements of US President Donald Trump' s position on securing peace for Ukraine is that security guarantees should be provided by European countries.

Von der Leyen stated that the relationship with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his team is "very close, and based on trust that has grown over the past three years.

We've been through some difficult and delicate situations, so we know that we can rely on each other in a crisis or emergency, and that we can find a solution in most cases. Not always, but in most cases we find solutions by working very, very closely together," she explained the state of relations with Kyiv.

The President of the European Commission expressed hope that the negotiations between Kyiv and Washington would lead to a just and lasting peace.

"For example, negotiations on security guarantees. The strongest guarantee of security, of course, would be NATO membership, but at the moment it is impossible. Then the second element, the most important one, is a well-equipped, functioning Ukrainian army and armed forces. And then we can move on to the details. So, we have a lot of very fruitful discussions and, as I say in English, it is a normal learning process also because again, these are uncharted waters and we have to find the best solution together," von der Leyen explained.

Commenting on French President Emmanuel Macron's proposal to extend a "nuclear umbrella" to interested EU countries, the President of the European Commission stated that this issue is a national competence of the countries. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3540151

[Jimbuna]

We have to get stronger - Merz wants to discuss with Britain and France joint use of their nuclear weapons

Probable future German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said that he would like to hold talks with France and the UK on the joint use of their nuclear weapons. At the same time, he added that the nuclear umbrella of France and Britain should be a "complement" to the existing US nuclear shield.

Merz said this in an interview with Deutschlandfunk, The Guardian quoted him as saying, Censor.NET reports.

"The sharing of nuclear weapons is an issue we need to talk about... We have to become stronger together in the area of nuclear deterrence," said the likely next German Chancellor.

The politician added that it is necessary to talk to both France and Britain.

Merz also emphasized that the nuclear weapons of Britain and France should be a complement to the American nuclear shield, which Germany would like to preserve.

Defense of Europe by nuclear weapons of Britain and France
Earlier it was reported that French President Emmanuel Macron said he had decided to start discussions with EU leaders on the protection of the European continent by French nuclear weapons.

The leaders of Poland and Denmark have said they are open to French President Emmanuel Macron's proposal to discuss how France's nuclear deterrent could protect Europe. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3540162

United States announced termination of support for Ukrainian F-16s. They may be replaced by French Mirage 2000 - Forbes

The administration of U.S. President Donald Trump has cut off critical support for jamming systems for the Ukrainian Air Force, which could significantly weaken its air defense capabilities.

According to Censor.NET, Forbes analyst David Axe wrote about this.

It is noted that before the transfer, the aircraft were modernized with AN/ALQ-131 units, PIDS+ and ECIPS+ systems, which increased their ability to counter Russian threats. And while the United States cannot simply pull the plug on the US-designed F-16s for the Ukrainian Air Force, stopping the jamming system upgrades poses serious risks.

However, Ukraine has an alternative - it can partially compensate for this shortcoming with French Dassault Mirage 2000 fighters.

Ukrainian pilots make extensive use of F-16s equipped with AN/ALQ-131 electronic warfare pods, which create electronic interference for Russian radars. In effect, these aircraft serve as a "flying air defense" with early warning technologies for missile attacks, according to the Conflict Intelligence Team.

The Russian air force can adapt by changing the frequencies of its radars to avoid interference. Under the Biden administration, the US Air Force regularly updated AN/ALQ-131 frequencies in response to such changes. However, under Trump, Ukrainian pilots have stopped receiving these updates, which could make the systems obsolete.

Unlike the US F-16, the French Mirage 2000 has its own powerful jamming systems, and the US does not participate in their programming. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3540149

[Skybird]

Yeah, the F-16s. I just did not say it. But I knew it was coming, I just waited for it.

Next the US will help Russia to shut down the very few remaining powerplants by graphite bombs.

Al in the name of peace and savigb lives, of course. Trump is a treasure chest of noble values. And Stockholm treats him sooo unfair! He said often enough that he deserves the Peace Nobel. And do they listehn to him? Noooo... Its only just and fair that he now uses force to pave his way for another (!) nomination.

Cynism without limits on the Washington snake farm. Other snake farms make antidots. Washington makes the poison itself and injects it into people that were already bitten.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

If Europe want Ukraine to win the war-Then they have to speed up the delivery of weapons and ammo and not to forget get ready to put boots on the ground.

They have been speaking a lot on the matter, that Ukraine has to win the war.

Markus

The production capacities are not there, must be build first.

Years.

And think of the many things and infrastructure and capabilities of the US that must be replaced. We must get rid of all that US-made sh!t, it now is a threat that is directed against us.

I fear the overwhelming majority of people and decision makers in Europe have not yet fully understood that and think they can still depend on Patriots and US intel and US aircraft and so forth.

No. We can not.

Not to mention DNS servers. Software. Internet. Economic dependencies on the giants form the US.

What we belied was safe since WW" - now reveals itself to have been a huge monumental trap. We will need decades to get out of it. For the time being we cannot do much more than to stop buying US-made weapons and IT.

We are economcially strong enough and technologically competent enough to make all that ourselves, but we must build the means to do so first, and to secure the supply lines for the needed global ressources. Of course we must also stop sharing that with the US.

We must also ready ourselves for the US no longer sharing terror warnings with us, like they did in all the past decades as an unspoken background policy even if the climate between Europe and the US was not good. When terror plots became known to the US that would lead to mass killings in Europe, the US intel shared intel discreetely with europe, no matter what, especially with the impotent Germans (and I am very thankful for that, believe me). I expect this to end with snakes in the pit like there now are. There is nothing noble in the Trumpists.

The more this all goes on, the more I realise I start to think of the US as an enemy, Sorry, but thats how it is, I am only pulling consequences. Tnhats wgho I tick if you push me too far, all of a sudden I flip the switches and plot a completely new course, a more aggressive one. We cannot trust the US anymore. And no, I do not think the US would help anymore in the defence of Europe if Russia attacks.

I just take the king cobra by its words. Wo are you - whoever feels adressed - to tell me he does not mean it?

[Jimbuna]

After all this is done will there be many countries left that consider the US a reliable and trusted ally?