UK Politics Thread - Page 449

Moonlight · 06-12-17, 05:22 PM

That poison dwarf should shut the hell up, any more talk of that independence claptrap she keeps spouting and she'll consign the SNP back to the old days of political obscurity, whoa, keep talking fish face and do us all that favour.

Meanwhile Mark Mardell the Presenter of, (The World This Weekend) has this to say on the predicament that Theresa May has got herself into.

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Theresa May: The prisoner of No 10

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40245800

The premiership is a poisoned chalice right now and no one else wants to drink from it, I don't know how TM can pull this bloody mess around but in her favour is that she's got a bloody stubborn streak in her and she won't accept defeat lightly, if anyone can do it she can, the alternative is bloody anarchy and no one wants that.

Jimbuna · 06-13-17, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

The premiership is a poisoned chalice right now and no one else wants to drink from it, I don't know how TM can pull this bloody mess around but in her favour is that she's got a bloody stubborn streak in her and she won't accept defeat lightly, if anyone can do it she can, the alternative is bloody anarchy and no one wants that.

True that

Jimbuna · 06-13-17, 05:31 AM

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The prime minister will host Arlene Foster to thrash out the terms of the DUP's backing for her minority government.
Mrs May says they will have no veto on key policies. Mrs Foster says her party has the national interest at heart.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40255958

Theresa May to hold talks with DUP leaders on government deal and I'm going to be totally selfish (fast approaching 60 years of age) and hope the partnership works long enough for the triple-lock and social care changes to be kicked into the long grass.

STEED · 06-13-17, 07:44 AM

Don't hold your breath folks, if the DUP pushes the boat out too far the mess will continual. The EU can smell blood and are already ramping it up lets get on with these talks. May is slowly being torn apart from all directions, question is how much more can she take?

Catfish · 06-13-17, 07:48 AM

Appearing strong and being stubborn always gets them through.. especially when they are complete nuts. I do not mean any certain politicians here of course

or only german ones

STEED · 06-13-17, 08:14 AM

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Michel Barnier warns UK it faces cliff-edge 'no deal' Brexit
Michel Barnier, the EU's point man on Brexit, sounds increasingly impatient with the UK, saying: "I can't negotiate with myself."

http://news.sky.com/story/michel-bar...rexit-10913909

Attention rest of the world visit the UK now before we go under and up in flames.

August · 06-13-17, 08:22 AM

It's tough to change the state when the state doesn't want to change.

Catfish · 06-13-17, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

http://news.sky.com/story/michel-bar...rexit-10913909

Attention rest of the world visit the UK now before we go under and up in flames.

Ah Barnier why don't you just shut up?
On the other hand, the british people have voted. How can it be so difficult to just start negotiations, what does this have to do with someone being prime minister, or for a time, or not, or whatever? The UK sure has non-political economical-savant negotiators who know what to do in the interest of the people, whoever accidentally happens to be "pm". I mean this is what a democracy is for eh?

STEED · 06-13-17, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Ah Barnier why don't you just shut up

NEVER...

I live here and have every right to stick it to the government of the day. That's what us Brits are best at..MOANING.

Government, weather, cost of living you name it we moan at it.

STEED · 06-13-17, 09:07 AM

BBC Rolling News

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Bercow is re-elected as Speaker

House of Commons
Parliament
Posted at
15:01
John Bercow is re-elected as new Commons Speaker.

Boring..How about Dennis Skinner now there is a man who speaks his mind.

Jimbuna · 06-13-17, 12:12 PM

Theresa May is certainly not doing herself many favours currently but if she gets the backing of her cabinet and other senior figures she will always have her fall back position of being to walk away from the negotiating table and I don't think either side would want that.

Catfish · 06-13-17, 12:13 PM

I just heard that the government declaration cannot be read, because (here it comes!) it is written with ink on goatskin, and the drying takes three days. Is that true?

STEED · 06-13-17, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Theresa May is certainly not doing herself many favours currently but if she gets the backing of her cabinet and other senior figures she will always have her fall back position of being to walk away from the negotiating table and I don't think either side would want that.

Question is the Tory backbenchers could cause problems but I doubt they would go all the way as Mrs May can play the general election card and walk away. One thing is for sure Mrs May going to have to shape up fast....

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Ken Clarke: "Theresa's A Bloody Difficult Woman"

Well now she has been weaken we shall see how difficult she can be.

Catfish · 06-13-17, 12:27 PM

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Ken Clarke: "Theresa's A Bloody Difficult Woman"

I heard something similar from Mr. Juncker, also that she suffered from delusion. At that time i thought it was him.. but now

Skybird · 06-13-17, 01:34 PM

While the British government rips itselves apart and some of May's ministers and several Tories are said to meet with Labour to discuss a soft Brexit, the already short time reserve for the actual negotiations with the EU over thousands if not tens of thousands of single regulations and laws and treaties is ticking away. Mind you, two years, 24 month,s are the limit. And two and a half months already have been wasted.

For nothing more but weakening oneself.

And May's majoirty, if it materilaises by will and cooperation of the DUP, is anything but a solid one. I would not count on Tories always completely backing just any decision on Brexit by her. And the DUP seems to be a difficult "partner", from what I read.

Not a good outlook anymore.

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Don't hold your breath folks, if the DUP pushes the boat out too far the mess will continual. The EU can smell blood and are already ramping it up lets get on with these talks. May is slowly being torn apart from all directions, question is how much more can she take? __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,926 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Appearing strong and being stubborn always gets them through.. especially when they are complete nuts. I do not mean any certain politicians here of course or only german ones __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 22,734 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's tough to change the state when the state doesn't want to change. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,753 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Theresa May is certainly not doing herself many favours currently but if she gets the backing of her cabinet and other senior figures she will always have her fall back position of being to walk away from the negotiating table and I don't think either side would want that. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,926 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I just heard that the government declaration cannot be read, because (here it comes!) it is written with ink on goatskin, and the drying takes three days. Is that true? __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,710 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	While the British government rips itselves apart and some of May's ministers and several Tories are said to meet with Labour to discuss a soft Brexit, the already short time reserve for the actual negotiations with the EU over thousands if not tens of thousands of single regulations and laws and treaties is ticking away. Mind you, two years, 24 month,s are the limit. And two and a half months already have been wasted. For nothing more but weakening oneself. And May's majoirty, if it materilaises by will and cooperation of the DUP, is anything but a solid one. I would not count on Tories always completely backing just any decision on Brexit by her. And the DUP seems to be a difficult "partner", from what I read. Not a good outlook anymore. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.