[REL] FOTRS Ultimate Project

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by mark bonamer

my apologies, duckman.
i am involved in home project and i am still trying to complete my first career using TMO+RSRD.
the fourth quarter of the year is uber-busy for my work group. the pressure to make our yearly objectives is really ratcheted up.

so...work + home project + TMO+RSRD = no time for Ralles.


IF (big if) i get some time, are there any particular subtypes/bases/subrons/theatres of operation that you want me to test right away?

@Bleiente


one of my other projects hit a snag and i have to wait on it.
i created a new install for the Ralles mega and started a US career.
smoke graphics are different than other megas.
ships have different paint jobs.
it's a fun mega. my career starts in manila 1941. there is not a lot of activity in the areas of the assignments. one has to go looking for convoys, etc because the patrol zones are dead.

some questions:
were any of the mods supposed to add base change messages? because there are none.
there are a couple of IJN ships with difficulties. i ran the Mission Editor and receiver two error messages (see below).
why don't the crew berthing areas have enough billets for all of the deck watch?

I’ve had suspicion that something is goin haywire but I think you’re right that it may not be this follow-on mission. What I mean by that is, i’ve played on .71 for months, problem free. But, only a few times have I reached or played in mid ‘44. And when I get to missions in mid ‘44, I’ve had crashes on Saved restarts occasionally. This time I had the crash repeatedly so I posted.
But, whatever the effect of making that change is, all of my 6 saves prior to getting the new mission now crash! I probably messed up the changes somewhere. So i’m starting over with a career start from Midway June ‘44.
Thanks for your help though.

[propbeanie]

jldjs, I have not run into the issue with Midway starts with a beginning or middle of '44 start. As I mentioned, you're the 3rd person to encounter the issue, and torpedobait mentions getting stopped at Fremantle, which leads me to suspect a lack of sufficient assignments and codes.

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by mark bonamer

@Bleiente


one of my other projects hit a snag and i have to wait on it.
i created a new install for the Ralles mega and started a US career.
smoke graphics are different than other megas.
ships have different paint jobs.
it's a fun mega. my career starts in manila 1941. there is not a lot of activity in the areas of the assignments. one has to go looking for convoys, etc because the patrol zones are dead.

some questions:
were any of the mods supposed to add base change messages? because there are none.
there are a couple of IJN ships with difficulties. i ran the Mission Editor and receiver two error messages (see below).
why don't the crew berthing areas have enough billets for all of the deck watch?

@ mark bonamer……. Why aren't you asking these questions in the "Ralles RealModPack for TMO_RSRDC_OTC" thread!?!

This is the Fotrs Ultimate thread. We don't need to get off topic onto other issues that don't pertain to "Ultimate".

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by CapnScurvy

@ mark bonamer……. Why aren't you asking these questions in the "Ralles RealModPack for TMO_RSRDC_OTC" thread!?!

This is the Fotrs Ultimate thread. We don't need to get off topic onto other issues that don't pertain to "Ultimate".

probably because that is where Bleiente recruited me for his new project and asked me to test it.
i suppose if the posting system allowed it we could have transferred the thread-post from FOTRSU to Ralles but it doesn't.

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Thanks Front Runner. CapnScurvy found and corrected that one for the next release. I'm going to hazard a guess that you attempted to look at it while opening the "Red Cross" section, and not the "Merchants" section, correct?

Yes. I accessed the recognition manual by opening the "Red Cross" section, not the "Merchants" section.

I like to play test the new betas by playing at 1x speed and clicking everywhere and testing all the functions. I just happened to be playing with the Periscopes and TBT paging through all the "eye candy" new to v71.

I have my "Radio" section set up with all of Fred's Radios and I've created my own "Classical" Radio Station and listen to old time radio and recorded classical music (including opera) while sailing along at 1x. Archive.org is a treasure trove of music, speeches, news, from the WW2 era.

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by mark bonamer

probably because that is where Bleiente recruited me for his new project and asked me to test it.
i suppose if the posting system allowed it we could have transferred the thread-post from FOTRSU to Ralles but it doesn't.

No problem MB, it's just we have enough "going on" in the thread without heading into another direction.

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Let's hope we can get Rockin Robbins to post our next version soon. It's been ready for a couple of weeks now. Propbeanie, s7rikeback, and I would like the next version posted for all to use/test....just waiting on the "owner" of this thread to do it?!?

[nionios]

In some cases when batteries are damaged and finally get fixed, the recharging stops always at a specific percentage.Does it mean a "stealth" damage? Or a bug?

Originally Posted by nionios

In some cases when batteries are damaged and finally get fixed, the recharging stops always at a specific percentage.

Well - that's the way it is in "real" life, nothing can actually be completely repaired.

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by nionios

In some cases when batteries are damaged and finally get fixed, the recharging stops always at a specific percentage.Does it mean a "stealth" damage? Or a bug?

As Bleiente says, if you're out on patrol, they can only do so much with lead sheet plates hanging in acid, stored in a glass jar. You break the glass while submerged, and your crew might die from gas poisoning. Drop a plate, and the battery no longer holds a charge, and will bring the rest of the battery bank down. Once you get into port for re-fit and repairs, they should get your boat fixed up though... ??

[Front Runner]

I’m not sure how to describe this, but here goes.
Bałao class out of Brisbane, Jan 1944.
I start and check sunset and sunrise times. They appear to be reasonably close to archived almanac times. I then proceed toward the Bismarck Sea at 1x time leaving the simulation to run day and night saving as I go. I do this because I’m going about my daily routine listening to Fred’s Radios in the background, interacting with the game from time to time. I finally arrive at the Bismarck Sea patrol area which is almost due north of Brisbane, so I haven’t crossed any in-game “time zones.” On my way I notice that the sunset-sunrise times are getting progressively later (earlier?) so sunrise is happening at midnight.
I then go back and load my save game whence I started and this time I use time compression all the way to the Bismarck Sea. When I check sunset-sunrise times they are when they should be.
It seems that by playing at 1x the celestial sphere gets out of sync with game time.
I’ve made plenty of save games within both branches, the 1x branch and the time compression branch.
I’ve also noticed some other issues which may lead to understanding this phenomenon such as being attacked by air in the middle of my “game night” (in 1x) while the clock indicates it should be daylight.
I’ll leave this description here and hope that one of the developers and/or modders have some ideas as to what might be causing this.

Front runner,
You are not alone on this one. I have been playing FOTRS ULTIMATE since it's inception and have had same experience. But I also had this happen in TMO MOD as well so it may be (hard coded) in the original release of SH-4?
captnmike

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by Front Runner

I’m not sure how to describe this, but here goes.
Bałao class out of Brisbane, Jan 1944.
I start and check sunset and sunrise times. They appear to be reasonably close to archived almanac times. I then proceed toward the Bismarck Sea at 1x time leaving the simulation to run day and night saving as I go. I do this because I’m going about my daily routine listening to Fred’s Radios in the background, interacting with the game from time to time. I finally arrive at the Bismarck Sea patrol area which is almost due north of Brisbane, so I haven’t crossed any in-game “time zones.” On my way I notice that the sunset-sunrise times are getting progressively later (earlier?) so sunrise is happening at midnight.
I then go back and load my save game whence I started and this time I use time compression all the way to the Bismarck Sea. When I check sunset-sunrise times they are when they should be.
It seems that by playing at 1x the celestial sphere gets out of sync with game time.
I’ve made plenty of save games within both branches, the 1x branch and the time compression branch.
I’ve also noticed some other issues which may lead to understanding this phenomenon such as being attacked by air in the middle of my “game night” (in 1x) while the clock indicates it should be daylight.
I’ll leave this description here and hope that one of the developers has some ideas as to what might be causing this.

There hasn't been a Ubisoft Silent Hunter "Developer" on the SubSim Forum pages for years!! Their all retired; in the Romanian Army as conscript's; or working for other companies making "apps" like Candy Crush.

The game is truly only a "representation" of real world time and space....it should not be considered accurate or factual. Especially when it comes to things like time and space. The game's "time" is relative to the "Sub Base Time" your sub left from, however it's not accurate in a sense that a true hour of game time is equal to a true hour of real world time. Nope, it's going to run "off" by several minutes per "24 hour day".

Regarding "space", a quick look at the map screen will show you the distance's between point A to B are not accurate. Pick any point you want, measure the distance between one point to the other, then search for the true measured distances between these points. They won't even be close. Some say it's due to the fact the game see's the world as a flat surface, not a curved one. But, whatever the reason, distance between two points is as void of reality as the space between some folks "ear's".

CapnScurvy,
Thanks for your explanation of time and world map layout.
I assume that also means there is no fix for said condition,
Also this is a minor inconvenience considering how FORTSU
has excelled SH-4 to it's current playable state!
Hat's off to all you dedicated moder's !!
captnmike

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by CapnScurvy

There hasn't been a Ubisoft Silent Hunter "Developer" on the SubSim Forum pages for years!!

I meant the modders, ("developers") of FOTRSU. The SH4 "Gurus" who know all there is to know, heheheh..... BTW, you are all doing an incredible job!


I understand about the "base" time issues. I know that when you travel east - west and cross "time" zones, the astronomical simulation changes. There should be a time difference between Tokyo and Pearl Harbor.
I didn't think that when traveling north - south there would be such a drastic difference when playing at 1x and virtually no difference at all when playing at time compression. I suppose the game was never intended to be played at 1x except when under attack or making an attack.


When I play at 1x and arrive at the Bismarck Sea from Brisbane, there is a several hour difference in the in-game clock sunset - sunrise from when I left Brisbane.
When I play at time compression speeds, there is very little difference in the in-game clock sunset - sunrise from when I left Brisbane. I take into consideration the (supposed) difference in the length of days the further south or north of the equator for any given calendar date.

Oh well, I was hoping someone could explain why there is such a difference at 1x and virtually no difference during time compression.