Here we go again-Ukraine once again - Page 445

les green01 · 09-25-22, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Which category goes this under ?

A strategy I've never heard of before

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/stat...05233536098304

Markus

we did the same thing in Vietnam so much for a certain weapons

Rockstar · 09-25-22, 11:02 AM

Let me see your war face.

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The Russian president’s nuclear warnings are “a matter that we have to take deadly seriously,” White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan told CBS on Sunday.

“We have communicated directly, privately at very high levels to the Kremlin that any use of nuclear weapons will be met with catastrophic consequences for Russia, that the United States and our allies will respond decisively, and we have been clear and specific about what that will entail,”

mapuc · 09-25-22, 11:02 AM

^^ It's new to me.. You learn something each day.

FYI.. Tactical Nukes-There isn't exactly a given strength on a nuke who have been used on the battlefield. That's the only reason to why they are called tactical

Used against civilians or cities well then it ain't a tactical nuke.

Markus

Dargo · 09-25-22, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

^^ It's new to me.. You learn something each day.

FYI.. Tactical Nukes-There isn't exactly a given strength on a nuke who have been used on the battlefield. That's the only reason to why they are called tactical

Used against civilians or cities well then it ain't a tactical nuke.

Markus

Russia does not make a difference between civilian or military targets there is no exact definition of the "tactical" nuclear weapon, generally smaller in explosive power gravity bombs, short-range missiles, artillery shells, land mines, depth charges, and torpedoes.

Dargo · 09-25-22, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

Which category goes this under ?

A strategy I've never heard of before

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/stat...05233536098304

Markus

category corruption was too expected, Russians are born for that.

mapuc · 09-25-22, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo

Russia does not make a difference between civilian or military targets there is no exact definition of the "tactical" nuclear weapon, generally smaller in explosive power gravity bombs, short-range missiles, artillery shells, land mines, depth charges, and torpedoes.

I remembered wrong-Sorry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_nuclear_weapon

Markus

Dargo · 09-25-22, 01:19 PM

Russian defenses are collapsing north and west of Lyman, a key city in northern Donetsk, which is one of the gateways to the northern part of the Luhansk region. Russian sources report that some Russian forces are retreating from Lyman to avoid being surrounded. https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/s...58455630745601

Dargo · 09-25-22, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I remembered wrong-Sorry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_nuclear_weapon

Markus

With small, they mean Hiroshima type of destruction, but before that Russia will do a test if we see a test we know he is trying to nuke Ukraine, and it can not happen because factions in the Kremlin or China stops him they will certainly after that kinda test.

Skybird · 09-25-22, 03:11 PM

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...postcount=6572

This is still the best summary and most precise assessment on all one needs to talk about when thinking "nukes" that I have heard about nukes and ukraine war so far. I see nothing to add or substract from that. Thats why I ignore Russian threats on the use of nukes, and would even carry on to dleievr wepaons to Ukraine even if Russia uses smaller nukes.

The onyl worry is not whether Ukraine is psychologically able to handle the impact of a nuke (they will not submit to it), but what the use of nukes would do to the decision making processes in European capitals.

Catfish · 09-25-22, 03:41 PM

Just to remind some who this a$$hole Jordan Peterson really is

Peterson is basically talking sh!t all the time while selling it as "being honest" lmao
Surely boosts his tv presence.

August · 09-25-22, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Just to remind some who this a$$hole Jordan Peterson really is

What in particular has enraged you?

Rockstar · 09-25-22, 04:11 PM

What part of that video do you disagree with? Is it just the part which made the headline; it was naive to think Russia could lose? Because he did go on to explain quite well IMO what he meant by that. And I can agree with his explanation too so I guess that makes me an a$$hole as well.

He certainly makes more sense than those German far left socialist groups like AfD backing Putin and Die Linke saying the Bucha massacre was faked.

Catfish · 09-25-22, 04:26 PM

Because standing up against Russia is not about economics alone, simple.
It is about being against something being obviously wrong, 'political' if you will, but also including sheer hate against an aggressor.

So you think "we" cannot win an economical war against Russia?
You think we cannot win a military war against Russia?
I tell you what, bury your head and chime in with Putin.

Commander Wallace · 09-25-22, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by August

What in particular has enraged you?

I think what Catfish doesn't like and I certainly agree with Catfish is that Jordan Petersen believes Russia is unbeatable. Jordan believes that Europe has to have Russian oil. Jordan believes that the Ukraine can't possibly win even though the Ukraine have shown incredible resolve.

I tend not to believe " self styled experts " and for good reason. They have been shown to be wrong again and again. Jordan just tends to make a number of assumptions the same as Putin himself has. Assumptions such as these have led to an ugly war. For the record, Jordan Petersen is allegedly a Psychologist. I'm not saying he isn't, by the way. Jordan Petersen is not a military man. My suggestion is if he wants to weigh in on military mattes that he is clueless about and has limited knowledge and understanding of, then Jordan should not only serve some time in uniform but do so while his country is at war. Then he can come back and tell us of his " vast experiences and insight " in war.

My opinion for what it's worth is for the Ukraine to continue to bravely battle as it has been and let the chips fall where they may.

August · 09-25-22, 05:20 PM

The guy is entitled to his opinion. Agree or disagree, that doesn't make him an ******* no matter how you spell it.

09-25-22, 11:02 AM	#6663
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,589 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	^^ It's new to me.. You learn something each day. FYI.. Tactical Nukes-There isn't exactly a given strength on a nuke who have been used on the battlefield. That's the only reason to why they are called tactical Used against civilians or cities well then it ain't a tactical nuke. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

09-25-22, 03:11 PM	#6669
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,741 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...postcount=6572 This is still the best summary and most precise assessment on all one needs to talk about when thinking "nukes" that I have heard about nukes and ukraine war so far. I see nothing to add or substract from that. Thats why I ignore Russian threats on the use of nukes, and would even carry on to dleievr wepaons to Ukraine even if Russia uses smaller nukes. The onyl worry is not whether Ukraine is psychologically able to handle the impact of a nuke (they will not submit to it), but what the use of nukes would do to the decision making processes in European capitals. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-25-22, 03:41 PM	#6670
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,814 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Just to remind some who this a$$hole Jordan Peterson really is Peterson is basically talking sh!t all the time while selling it as "being honest" lmao Surely boosts his tv presence. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 09-25-22 at 04:09 PM.*

09-25-22, 04:11 PM	#6672
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	What part of that video do you disagree with? Is it just the part which made the headline; it was naive to think Russia could lose? Because he did go on to explain quite well IMO what he meant by that. And I can agree with his explanation too so I guess that makes me an a$$hole as well. He certainly makes more sense than those German far left socialist groups like AfD backing Putin and Die Linke saying the Bucha massacre was faked. Last edited by Rockstar; 09-25-22 at 04:27 PM.

09-25-22, 04:26 PM	#6673
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,814 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Because standing up against Russia is not about economics alone, simple. It is about being against something being obviously wrong, 'political' if you will, but also including sheer hate against an aggressor. So you think "we" cannot win an economical war against Russia? You think we cannot win a military war against Russia? I tell you what, bury your head and chime in with Putin. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

09-25-22, 05:20 PM	#6675
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,244 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The guy is entitled to his opinion. Agree or disagree, that doesn't make him an ******* no matter how you spell it. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.