UK Politics Thread

[Moonlight]

It's alright Jimbuna I'm not a cow I'm a horse.

[STEED]

Corbyn comes across like a mad man handing out cheques here there and every where without a care in the world. Sounds like the last Labour government that got us in the mess we are in now. This gave the coalition Con/Lib government to cut hard and even more harder when the Tories won the last election.

May at the dispatch box runs rings around Corbyn and yes in public May is out of her comfort zone and comes across badly, yes she is weak but Corbyn is weaker. As for Farron talk about Mr Nasty trying to pass himself off as the nice guy what rot.

All three have failed to answer questions by deflecting and repeating same old comments over and over again so what is new all politician's do that. It all comes down to which party is going to slap you in the face the less.

[Eichhörnchen]

I'd rather be cashing Corbyn's cheques than paying May's

[Moonlight]

Originally Posted by STEED

Corbyn comes across like a mad man handing out cheques here there and every where without a care in the world. Sounds like the last Labour government that got us in the mess we are in now. This gave the coalition Con/Lib government to cut hard and even more harder when the Tories won the last election.

I see that you were taken in by the Tory spin machine as well, before you go spouting off on things that you know nothing about I suggest you read this first and bloody learn something for once instead of listening to all that Tory drivel you're all so bloody fond of.
http://www.economist.com/news/school...-years-article

Theresa May keeps harping on about being Strong and Stable, every time she's come under the spotlight she's screwed up big time and U-Turned, and now her manifesto is starting to get a going over as well, she's the weakest of the lot of them.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...k-and-unstable

At the end of the day those Tory parasites won't slap you around old boy, no, they'll punch you in the kisser so that you'll remember your place is in the gutter along side the rest of the peasants.

[MGR1]

I'm voting Tory because it sends a more effective message to the SNP than voting for useless old SLab will.

I disagree with many of the policies in the main Tory manifesto, but the ones in the Scottish Branch Office one are a bit more reasonable. One of the consequences of devolution, I guess. Things are a bit different up here now in comparison with England.

Mike.

[STEED]

Moonlight let me make it clear to you I don't vote Tory.

And where I am sitting judging all my local candidates not one of them is fit to vote for.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Moonlight

^ Trusted on what! soundbites, I'm more interested in what she can't be trusted on and so are a lot more people. What she can't be trusted on is the NHS, the Police, the Armed Forces, the Fire Service, Social Care and Immigration to name just a few, it was that silly mare who as Home Secretary lost the whereabouts of over a 100,000 immigrants wasn't it.

Trust has to be earned and so far the Tories record on it is bloody abysmal, there'll soon be more Foodbanks and more Zero Hours employment for the less well off while her large corporation donors and the better off get even more tax cuts.... trust her you say, I say that's bollocks.

Your judgement has been clouded for a long time old boy, if I were you I'd go and get yourself tested for mad cow disease because I think you've caught it off of Theresa May and her cronies.

I will simply respond by pointing out a couple of my previous psst comments...

#6460

it hurts me to think that the party I was a former member of for over 25 years has been taken over by this individual and his supporters

#6521

I gave up trying to understand what Corbyn was about the day after he became the leader of my party

What annoys me more than anything else is the fact that Labour are no longer viewed as being a serious opposition and that is predominantly down to one man and his band of left wing sycophants. So every time the Tories decide to stick the boot into the working class perhaps he, Corbyn would like to explain why he can't even muster the support of those Labour MP's who were elected to represent the millions who voted for them in the now vain hope their hopes and aspirations will be fulfilled even if only partly.

The bottom line being....the electorate will most probably return the Tories back into power with a greater majority and therefore embolden them to do as they please.

'Mad cow disease' indeed....their is a greater madness spreading amongst a small clique in Westminster and that madness is impacting on many less fortunate people across the UK because said clique have now achieved what they have wanted for many a year now, control of a national political party from which to spout their left wing socialist propaganda. They know full well the British electorate will never elect a government so ultra left but they care not one jot, the platform and the news coverage is enough for them.

In the meantime, the masses are promised the earth and the end to all their woes but no explanation of where all the money (the true cost) needed will come from and the effects on the British economy.

It is really quite easy for any politician to write cheques they will never be called on to cash.

One day, the cancer at the top of the Labour movement will eventually be eradicated and I'll most likely rejoin, but right now I doubt I'll be able to vote.

My MP who I know personally was recently quoted in the national press as stating the constituents in my town were so poor they were reduced to burying their deceased loved ones in their back gardens because they didn't have the financial means to pay funeral costs.

Go figure that one out!!

[Moonlight]

^Same here old boy, my local candidates are a bunch of bleeding nobodies and that's what's making me so bloody angry about the poor fare these politicians are dishing up.

I'm going to be voting for the last time this time as I'm done with the bloody lot of them.

[MGR1]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

What annoys me more than anything else is the fact that Labour are no longer viewed as being a serious opposition and that is predominantly down to one man and his band of left wing sycophants.

Corbyn isn't responsible for the mess Labour's Scottish Branch Office is in. The rot there started much, much earlier.

He isn't helping SLab, but they're not exactly helping themselves either.

Mike.

[Eichhörnchen]

I am trying hard to think "Vote Labour" instead of "Vote Corbyn". That's how we should think at election time, but it's always portrayed as being a vote for a personality by both sides... they all play this same cheap game.

[MGR1]

That's the problem and always has been.

Now, if anyone is curious as to what powers are held by Holyrood and what are still held be Westminster, BBC Scotland put this handy guide up:

Election 2017: Who has power over what in Scotland?

The catch is with the current hybrid arrangement is that funding in Scotland isn't fully devolved. It's still linked to what's spent in England via the Barnett Formula. Until that link is severed it's still possible for a Scottish MP to vote on funding arrangements in England. However, the risk is that full fiscal control would then effectively make Scottish Independence cost neutral and it also has the potential to create an economic threat to England.

Mike.

[STEED]

Good evening everyone as you all know I gave my reasons why I am not voting and after tonight I can say 100% I will not be voting.

I had to listen to the biggest load of BS from the Con/Lab/Lib and Green candidates yes I was on duty and the Hustings was on my watch, I was turned off by their bile and BS which really got on my man boobs so to speak.

I am going to say it again Westminster needs a bloody massive tidal wave of a shake up.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

I am trying hard to think "Vote Labour" instead of "Vote Corbyn". That's how we should think at election time, but it's always portrayed as being a vote for a personality by both sides... they all play this same cheap game.

VOTE FOR THE STEED PARTY IN 2022 THE NO BS TELL IT STRAIGHT PARTY

Have a jam doughnut and smile.

[Eichhörnchen]

I grew up in a working-class Tory voting household; my parents read the Daily Sketch and then the Daily Mail and always voted Conservative. So did I until the treachery of the Poll Tax. I swore then never to vote Tory again... I remember.

Whatever Jeremy Corbyn is, I'll be voting Labour because I see the Tories as the enemies of the self-employed and small business. Plus we have disability concerns in our family. Measures introduced to give everyone a minimum wage will force many small businesses out of business (the Tories know this) and incidentally, NONE of this benefits the self-employed and is never balanced by any kind of relief for the self-employed. And now they've learned that these self-employed are rocketing in numbers, what do they do? Start dreaming up more ways of squeezing them, i.e. the N.I.measures. They've made it virtually IMPOSSIBLE for the self-employed to get Universal Credit, and now they are planning to force us to submit accounts quarterly... online... knowing full well that this will be an almost impossible burden for many. But it will save the Civil Service (the IR) a packet. They don't want the self-employed... we are too expensive and independent.

As for the disabled, news stories of them having their benefits curtailed are legion, and if they get a mandate to do what they want then these are only likely to increase.

This is why I will be voting for Labour.

[STEED]

As said I just can not bring myself to vote for my candidates as all of them were dreadful. As for the audience that was there the Libs got the biggest thumbs up followed by Lab and a mix thumbs up and down for the Cons. Greens don't count they get no where, any way moving on to the latest polls seem to be pointing at a Tory victory but less seats down to four or five and if this is the case the Tory Wolfs will be after Mrs May for sure.