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Old 02-22-06, 08:07 PM   #646
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That actually looks exactly like some of the CAM ships I have seen. The Empire Ocean (which ran aground and sank on the coast of my home province) had an almost identical superstructure - flat, without the sparse wings of earlier merchants. I have a picture of her (from one of my books) after the grounding, but before she was refloated and lost under tow.

I assume there will be a regular version as well? I think you mentioned that earlier.

Also, I have to say I love that grainy old photo look - looks just like a WW2 snapshot. :P

BTW - I do know about moving 3d objects and nodes in pack3d - that's actually what I use primarily for moving things now. I will indeed move the smoke. I may move it for the stock tugboat as well.

One last thing - how do I make this ship multi-skinned? I know there are people here who know how. One skin is not enough.

I will now see if I can do the multi-angled shots for the ID image.
Sorry, I don't know how to go from single skin to multi..

A question for you, in turn ... do you know if there were any CAM tankers? There was an excellent (but depressing) WWII comic book that came out a few years back called "Nightingale" by Vertigo comics. The first part featured the tragic story of a CAM-tanker that was torpedoed and sunk in an arctic convoy. (http://www.thefourthrail.com/reviews...htingale.shtml) Very vivid, but I'm not sure they would have had hurricats on tankers because of the explosion risk posed by the rockets.
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Old 02-22-06, 08:27 PM   #647
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According to the Weapons & Warfare encycopedia from 1977, all 35 were freighters with tonnages between 5,100 and 9,800 GRT.
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Old 02-23-06, 01:27 AM   #648
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iambecomelife,
Sounds like a merge or mixup? between the CAM and MAC type of ships in that comic.
http://www.naval-history.net/WW2Brit...ftCarriers.htm

Scroll down to MERCHANT AIRCRAFT CARRIERS almost at the bottom of the page
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Oil or grain bulk cargo carriers with superstructures removed and flight decks added. Manned by Merchant Navy crews, with Fleet Air Arm personnel to maintain and fly the aircraft - mainly A/S Swordfish and Sea Hurricanes. They flew the Red Ensign and some aircraft carried "Merchant Navy" instead of "Royal Navy" on their fuselage

25. Empire class Grain Carriers

EMPIRE MacALPINE, EMPIRE MacKENDRICK, EMPIRE MacANDREW, EMPIRE MacDERMOTT, EMPIRE MacRAE, EMPIRE MacCALLUM, 7 ships - 8,000 tons, 12 knots, 4 aircraft, crew not known, launched December 1942-January 1944.

Equipped with hangar and lift



26. Empire Class Oil Tankers

EMPIRE MacKAY, EMPIRE MacCOLL, EMPIRE MacMAHON, EMPIRE MacCABE, 4 ships - 9,000 tons, 12 knots, 3 aircraft, crew not known, launched May-July 1943

No hangar and lift; aircraft maintained and stored on deck



27. Rapana Class Oil Tankers

ACARUS, ADULA, ALEXIA, AMASTRA, ANCYLUS, GADILA, MACOMA, MIRALDA, RAPANA, 9 ships - 12,000 tons, 12 knots, 3 aircraft, crew not known, converted 1942-44

Anglo-Saxon Petroleum Company tankers. "Gadila" and "Macoma" operated under the Dutch ensign. No hangar and lift; aircraft maintained and stored on deck
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Old 02-23-06, 07:12 PM   #649
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iambecomelife,
Sounds like a merge or mixup? between the CAM and MAC type of ships in that comic.
http://www.naval-history.net/WW2Brit...ftCarriers.htm

Scroll down to MERCHANT AIRCRAFT CARRIERS almost at the bottom of the page
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Oil or grain bulk cargo carriers with superstructures removed and flight decks added. Manned by Merchant Navy crews, with Fleet Air Arm personnel to maintain and fly the aircraft - mainly A/S Swordfish and Sea Hurricanes. They flew the Red Ensign and some aircraft carried "Merchant Navy" instead of "Royal Navy" on their fuselage

25. Empire class Grain Carriers

EMPIRE MacALPINE, EMPIRE MacKENDRICK, EMPIRE MacANDREW, EMPIRE MacDERMOTT, EMPIRE MacRAE, EMPIRE MacCALLUM, 7 ships - 8,000 tons, 12 knots, 4 aircraft, crew not known, launched December 1942-January 1944.

Equipped with hangar and lift



26. Empire Class Oil Tankers

EMPIRE MacKAY, EMPIRE MacCOLL, EMPIRE MacMAHON, EMPIRE MacCABE, 4 ships - 9,000 tons, 12 knots, 3 aircraft, crew not known, launched May-July 1943

No hangar and lift; aircraft maintained and stored on deck



27. Rapana Class Oil Tankers

ACARUS, ADULA, ALEXIA, AMASTRA, ANCYLUS, GADILA, MACOMA, MIRALDA, RAPANA, 9 ships - 12,000 tons, 12 knots, 3 aircraft, crew not known, converted 1942-44

Anglo-Saxon Petroleum Company tankers. "Gadila" and "Macoma" operated under the Dutch ensign. No hangar and lift; aircraft maintained and stored on deck
They definitely intended for it to be a regular CAM ship. It had a normal, wide-spaced oil tanker superstructure, and was ordinary except for a catapult at the bow. IIRC the tanker's name was the "Empire Dawn".

Oh, and I can't recommend that comic book enough; the author really knows his naval history. Just be prepared for a sad ending, though...

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Old 02-25-06, 06:46 AM   #650
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Hello, it gives a new ship for SHIII.
The Scharnhorst is from the German ubi forum and the creator is called "gerome_73". I find that is a very good work!

The Scharnhorst:










http://rapidshare.de/files/13656318/...t_1.2.rar.html
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Old 02-25-06, 10:40 AM   #651
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Holy Crap. That's all I can say.

Although I have to wait until Wednesday to install it.

Do they have any more of those around that we can download?
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Old 02-25-06, 02:18 PM   #652
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I just downloaded the Scharnhorst and took a look at it in the museum... That baby looks bigger than the Bismark!

Great looking ship, looks really well done!

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Old 02-26-06, 04:59 PM   #653
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I just downloaded the Scharnhorst and took a look at it in the museum... That baby looks bigger than the Bismark! Wolfy
Nope, its shorter and narrower, just like it should be
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Old 02-26-06, 05:58 PM   #654
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Is that a brand new model, BTW?

(I can't see why there isn't more excitement over this. ).
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Old 02-26-06, 06:50 PM   #655
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HOLY COW!!! The SCHARNHORST!!!

That modder ROCKS!!!
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Old 02-26-06, 07:03 PM   #656
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Very nice. Now someone needs to plot out their historical South Atlantic raid in the SCR layer
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Old 02-28-06, 06:31 AM   #657
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they really look great, any more inside as how to do the deck textures ?
cause all textures look in place

cheers

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Old 02-28-06, 07:44 AM   #658
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Solution is - you guess it, RE UVW map the model.
yeah i guessed it, now only find out what it means
any tutorials ?

thanks

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Old 02-28-06, 09:15 AM   #659
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I think I found a UV mapping tutorial once for Wings3d, but it was for an older version. I posted it in a different thread.

Maybe Cdr. Gibs could enlighten us on his method. :hmm:
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Old 02-28-06, 02:18 PM   #660
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However its NOT freeware but its cheap.
Do you know where one could find a good freeware 3d UV mapper?
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