[WIP] Japanese Campaign - Page 44

I-25 · 01-17-10, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by keltos01

keltos

just to be sure you know that this is the I-152

also on that I-52 3d model the hull is amazing o.O but the tower seems off to me. to squarish looking.

also the I-52 had 2 deck type99 double mounts AA guns right behind the tower and as far as i know this was the only fullsize japanese sub with AA's mounted on the deck

miner1436 · 01-18-10, 11:41 AM

Are the limber holes on the I-52 correct? I would expect them to be more like the Junsen B class.

keltos01 · 01-18-10, 12:30 PM

http://www.operationrisingsun.com/main.html

http://edgeoftheearthvp.com/picture.html

limber holes :

Quote:

Originally Posted by miner1436

Are the limber holes on the I-52 correct? I would expect them to be more like the Junsen B class.

Yes indeed but I think there was only one RL picture taken, maybe there are some on the I-52 sub exploration mission

wish I had high resolution pictures of this sub...

keltos

I-25 · 01-18-10, 04:07 PM

i think miner is right about the limber holes. they should go back down

here you can kind of see the curve in the limberholes were it goes back down.

the whole gun splash deflector was never on that class of sub was never completed with a forward deck gun.

heres a better layout (except the bow seems a bit off)

James Dziadulewicz's 3d model is excellent in terms of skill but it suffers from multiple sources...
He must of came across pictures of the I-152 when it was still named the I-52 and mixed features of them both. thats where he whole deckgun and splash guard come from, i see this a lot because most people dont understand the whole IJN renumbering sequence

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On Christmas Eve the subs were ordered to shell selected U.S. cities and lighthouses. After expending all of their 5.5-inch shells, they were to retire to Kwajalein in the Marshall Islands.

I also have read that as the war progressed, Japanese subs were hindered by the US breaking of their naval codes and a bad habit of shelling the enemy coast at the end of their patrol so they could claim having fired upon enemy soil. These two details allowed the US to intercept the subs on their return course.

the Xmas shelling thing was canceled at the last min.
and only on 3 occasions did they bombard the US coast always under orders.
the I-17 an oil field in santa barbara
the I-25 at Ft. steven in oregon
and the I-26 Pt. Estevan light house at puget sound

(srry to the mods for a huge pic)

Wolfpack721 · 01-21-10, 05:37 PM

Hi Peabody!

I hope I will receive your extension pack of these Japanese missions. (I hope in a total campaign...)
I can offer all my help. I'm not a programmer, I can't help with software tips or something similar... I'm just a user. But I can help with historical details, because I am a modeler and a submarine fanatic.

My e-mail adress: atiraptor@vipmail.hu
Yours sincerely:

Atilla

(In SH sims: Atilex Guyon)

keltos01 · 01-22-10, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfpack721

Hi Peabody!

I hope I will receive your extension pack of these Japanese missions. (I hope in a total campaign...)
I can offer all my help. I'm not a programmer, I can't help with software tips or something similar... I'm just a user. But I can help with historical details, because I am a modeler and a submarine fanatic.

My e-mail adress: atiraptor@vipmail.hu
Yours sincerely:

Atilla

(In SH sims: Atilex Guyon)

thank you and Welcome to Subsim !

keltos

keltos01 · 01-22-10, 03:36 PM

found a World War 2 Japanese Submarine Ship's Clock Seikosha on ebay :

I used it to replace the german cloack still ingame.

keltos

keltos01 · 01-29-10, 02:29 PM

crash diving after shooting all 4 tubes !

model : fair_weather
implementation : keltos

keltos

keltos01 · 02-01-10, 05:56 PM

New items :

Type 88 periscope view improved by Hitman and Peabody

Upper and lower torpedo rooms for the Type C2 submarine :

Crew screen :

Damage screen :

Loadout screen :

]

Quarters Electrical engine Diesel Engine Command Room/diving stations Quarters Bow torpedo room

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...t%20S-01-1.pdf

this is the setup on a Jyunsen B, I didn't have good enough a blueprint and legend so I couldn't figure out the rest of the stuff, but IJN subs were based on roughly the same layout
adding a stern torpedo room on some not on others, and of course the two bow rooms for subs with 8 bow tubes (easier to load I guess).

there was an aft quarters and two bow ones, not represented ingame..

so we actually are missing areas that can be damaged and that help with the overal flotation of the boat

there is something on the blueprint aft of the stern quarters, some kind of machinery ?

I'm starting to get that IJN feel !

keltos

keltos01 · 02-04-10, 12:11 PM

two bow torpedo rooms as should be !

keltos

Bubblehead1980 · 02-04-10, 04:30 PM

great work! cant wait to play the IJN side one of these days

keltos01 · 02-05-10, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

great work! cant wait to play the IJN side one of these days

keltos

keltos01 · 02-07-10, 08:05 AM

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...t%20S-01-7.pdf

So it seems the actual US periscope view with the azimuth might be mistaken !!!!

Keltos

aanker · 02-11-10, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by keltos01

Undisclosed portion of the Navy

Ko Hyoteki attack movie

......

Pearl Harbor after attack ?

Ko Hyoteki periscope - binocular

another japanese sub movie ! in training ?

same quality as Gochin

keltos

Nice project keltos! (and spellbinding thread )

海軍未公開部分 - "Unpublished portion of the Navy" - (this google translate firefox extension really works! ;-)

Anyway, I recognize these and the youtube clip from a documentary I saw that described them as from a wartime Japanese propaganda movie. The documentary went on to say that this film was showing the spacious interiors of the mini-subs, the Japanese film version (using models) of the Pearl Harbor attack, and submarine duty, when in reality of course the interiors were much more compact.

Art

keltos01 · 02-12-10, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aanker

Nice project keltos! (and spellbinding thread )

Anyway, I recognize these and the youtube clip from a documentary I saw that described them as from a wartime Japanese propaganda movie. The documentary went on to say that this film was showing the spacious interiors of the mini-subs, the Japanese film version (using models) of the Pearl Harbor attack, and submarine duty, when in reality of course the interiors were much more compact.

Art

would you happen to know the name of the documentary ? thanks for the info btw ! and glad

you like our thread !

keltos

01-21-10, 05:37 PM	#650
Wolfpack721 Nub Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hopes and an offer Hi Peabody! I hope I will receive your extension pack of these Japanese missions. (I hope in a total campaign...) I can offer all my help. I'm not a programmer, I can't help with software tips or something similar... I'm just a user. But I can help with historical details, because I am a modeler and a submarine fanatic. My e-mail adress: atiraptor@vipmail.hu Yours sincerely: Atilla (In SH sims: Atilex Guyon)

01-22-10, 03:36 PM	#652
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	found a World War 2 Japanese Submarine Ship's Clock Seikosha on ebay : I used it to replace the german cloack still ingame. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

01-29-10, 02:29 PM	#653
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Sen Taka Fast Attack Boat crash diving after shooting all 4 tubes ! model : fair_weather implementation : keltos keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 01-29-10 at 05:52 PM.

02-01-10, 05:56 PM	#654
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	New items : Type 88 periscope view improved by Hitman and Peabody Upper and lower torpedo rooms for the Type C2 submarine : Crew screen : Damage screen : Loadout screen : ] Quarters Electrical engine Diesel Engine Command Room/diving stations Quarters Bow torpedo room http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...t%20S-01-1.pdf this is the setup on a Jyunsen B, I didn't have good enough a blueprint and legend so I couldn't figure out the rest of the stuff, but IJN subs were based on roughly the same layout adding a stern torpedo room on some not on others, and of course the two bow rooms for subs with 8 bow tubes (easier to load I guess). there was an aft quarters and two bow ones, not represented ingame.. so we actually are missing areas that can be damaged and that help with the overal flotation of the boat there is something on the blueprint aft of the stern quarters, some kind of machinery ? I'm starting to get that IJN feel ! keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 02-02-10 at 04:39 AM.

02-04-10, 12:11 PM	#655
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Sen Toku two bow torpedo rooms as should be ! keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

01-18-10, 11:41 AM	#647
miner1436 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 808 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 3	Are the limber holes on the I-52 correct? I would expect them to be more like the Junsen B class.

02-04-10, 04:30 PM	#656
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,129 Downloads: 606 Uploads: 44	great work! cant wait to play the IJN side one of these days

02-07-10, 08:05 AM	#658
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...t%20S-01-7.pdf So it seems the actual US periscope view with the azimuth might be mistaken !!!! Keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"