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Old 02-28-11, 09:54 AM   #6511
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Nope, what you see is the SOAN. Soon as I saw the old SH4 ori 3 recon book layout I just urgently skined the cover. Right now, here is how the SOAN cover looks like at me:

But for the inside part I cannot work out the visual layout just because my skill in editing is poor. As you can see, in my proposal the info is what we got now in SOAN. But organised on pages, instead of a simple sheet. So the main structure is you SOAN and only the ship sil is a bit scaled down to fit better on the left page. I tried to make the modifications by myself, but your mod is so complicated that I had to give up and only imagine how would look like with a SH5 style cover and colors.
There's only one problem with your cover - how do you choose between merchants, warships, tankers, etc? I could move that to the 'inside' of SOAN but where would I put it?

I can change the layout of SOAN to be anything I want. I like your proposal and it's doable but we must resolve the issue raised above. Do you have the .dds files for your proposed version of SOAN?
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Old 02-28-11, 10:06 AM   #6512
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GREAT WORK TDW!!!

Send mast height to TDC (via SOAN) works now with the 4th test version of your new mod.

There's only one issue: the rec. manual... I really like the idea of Magnum but also understand your point.

It would really be great to have all the ships and all data in one manual.

If it can be done I know you can do it man.
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Old 02-28-11, 10:07 AM   #6513
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There's only one problem with your cover - how do you choose between merchants, warships, tankers, etc? I could move that to the 'inside' of SOAN but where would I put it?

I can change the layout of SOAN to be anything I want. I like your proposal and it's doable but we must resolve the issue raised above. Do you have the .dds files for your proposed version of SOAN?
Oke.. you got me on this one. What do you mean by .. "choose between merchants, warships, tankers, etc" Is there an option for that? Sorry, but playing with you mod only for a day, did not saw an option like you describe. Actually Im looking to a screenshot with SOAN and I dont see anything like you say. In my proposal I took over every info You put on the page, nothing left out or put in, except you data...

Yes, I got the dds as Im using the black cover already. Got me a long time to remove the "All nations ships" and target name display from the cover
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Old 02-28-11, 10:12 AM   #6514
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There's only one issue: the rec. manual... I really like the idea of Magnum but also understand your point.

It would really be great to have all the ships and all data in one manual.
The whole purpose of SOAN was to have the ability to reference every ship (and it's data) used in game. That was accomplished. SOAN's cover had some arrows and a box inbetween them that showed you which class of ships you were going to view. Options were: merchants, warships, tankers, escorts, and some others. After selecting the class of ships you wanted to view you would click the cover to open up the manual. Now you could view every ship in that class by using the arrows.
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Old 02-28-11, 10:19 AM   #6515
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Huh.. and I deleted that part.. thought that appears only when I lock on target and just inform me about what type of target I have selected.

Oke, very valid point, back to drawings /brb.
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Old 02-28-11, 11:15 AM   #6516
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SOAN big cover:



SOAN smaller cover


The position of the ship type display area is the same as it was until now. Question.. in game the image is scaled up? Because in the dds is much more smaller than in game...

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Old 02-28-11, 11:26 AM   #6517
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The position of the ship type display area is the same as it was until now. Question.. in game the image is scaled up? Because in the dds is much more smaller than in game...
Yes the image is scaled up using linear style scaling (to keep proportions). I like the small cover Using the small cover and then clicking the cover could 'open' the manual to have the view you showed with pages
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Old 02-28-11, 12:13 PM   #6518
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Here is the modified .dds. Had to reorganize a bit the dds file to make place for booth cover, hope is not a big problem reworking the coordinates.

I got few things to ask regarding the "hide on mouse out" UI option. Is possible to make booth part to hide/show at the same time? Or at least to be visible all the time on nav map? When on nav map I need all the info from these bar. Speed, clock is pretty vital and with the mouse over I can bring on only 1 part to show, so I need to move the mouse a lot.

Also I have one bug to report on your latest version, the left part of the bar with the speed and depth info is reversed now. On start I see what it usually show when the Control button si pressed, the detailed view.

Thanks.
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Old 02-28-11, 12:16 PM   #6519
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I like the small cover too!

But could we get rid of the old rec. manual completely?
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Old 02-28-11, 12:22 PM   #6520
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I like the small cover too!

But could we get rid of the old rec. manual completely?
What old manual, what do you mean?
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Old 02-28-11, 12:26 PM   #6521
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I like the small cover too!

But could we get rid of the old rec. manual completely?
if you disable the XO (XO icon in top right bar) you'll never have to look at the old rec manual ever again.
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Old 02-28-11, 12:28 PM   #6522
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Here is the modified .dds. Had to reorganize a bit the dds file to make place for booth cover, hope is not a big problem reworking the coordinates.

I got few things to ask regarding the "hide on mouse out" UI option. Is possible to make booth part to hide/show at the same time? Or at least to be visible all the time on nav map? When on nav map I need all the info from these bar. Speed, clock is pretty vital and with the mouse over I can bring on only 1 part to show, so I need to move the mouse a lot.

Also I have one bug to report on your latest version, the left part of the bar with the speed and depth info is reversed now. On start I see what it usually show when the Control button si pressed, the detailed view.

Thanks.
What size did you set for the small rec manual? I'd like to duplicate what you did with the menu editor to make the small rec manual.
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Old 02-28-11, 12:41 PM   #6523
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I used a bigger size, similar to what you put in the game. Dimensions: width 412, height 327 for cover, w812 and h337 for pages. Now, normally would be to multiply the content part, so the pages would be w824 x h327.
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Old 02-28-11, 02:39 PM   #6524
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SOAN big cover:



SOAN smaller cover


The position of the ship type display area is the same as it was until now. Question.. in game the image is scaled up? Because in the dds is much more smaller than in game...
Hi Magnum !

I like the style very much, looks nice !

But is it possible, that you create a version with swastica, similar in this both posts:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=6519

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=6522

That would be great !

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Old 02-28-11, 03:01 PM   #6525
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This version:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=6519


looks absolutely perfect!
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