Syria conflict: 'Chemical attacks kill hundreds'

[Mittelwaechter]

Some sign first and grow a brain later.

Some sign and refuse to grow a brain ever.

[Feuer Frei!]

Russian radar detected two ballistic "objects" that were fired towards the eastern Mediterranean from the central part of the sea on Tuesday

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[Jimbuna]

Bernard!!

[Sammi79]

Israeli/US missile test:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/mid...-refugees-live

It's a live stream but check the comment @ 11:28am

[edit] not sure I believe the official line on this, why on earth would you be conducting 'tests' like that without warning anyone?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

Who cares what you give or not Skybird? Like I said your opinion is no more valuable than anyone elses and I say a lot less valuable than the medic in the picture above.

And you have a patent on wisdom and correctness? Hardly. The attitude you show made the Tonking incident, the Vietnam war and the death of over three million people possible. It made the military follow Bush into a war of lies and forged and just claimed evidence, causing the death of 100-200 thousand people in the violence of the following years, although back then already serious questions should have been asked - but were refused to be asked with both Houses failing their duties with flying colours, being drunk by emotions. These two examples are both not any different from the Nazis staging a Polish attack on a German border post to create the excuse for attacking Poland. In thwe following years, the Wehrmacht'S olfficer corps for the most refused to revolt against Hitler, claiming the same arguments like you.

Arguments that have been rejected at the Nuremberg trials, btw. "I just followed orders, I had to follow orders" was often rejected there when the tried war criminals were questioned, afaik.

You deny the duty of a soldier to refuse follow a traitors orders, illegal orders, criminal orders.

And that should be taken serious? You are only about protecting the state-within-the-state-mentality that is inbred in every military apparatus today.

When you sign in, you cannot chose your wars and loyalty to commanders, but you have to obey. In 99 out of 100 cases I totally agree with it, because I fully understand the necessity for this. If you are critical about your leader's motives or do not want to fight in wars, better don't join then. But the precondition for that choice on leader'S motives is to know it in advance. And you cannot know what kind of corps general you get, and many people, apparently especially in America, are trained from schoolyears on to be remarkably uncritical of their politicians and political system, it sometimes crosses the border to brainwashing. So when you join in good faith, and then find out that your leaders betray you, you have not just the right, but the duty to expose them - because you serve not them, but the people of your country who pay your training and your wages and who are the only subject worth to pledge an oath over. If you have a problem with your people as well as with your leaders, like I have today, you better do not join indeed. But that must be known and understood in advance by that 18 year old teenager we are talking about.

And btw, August, since you questioned it, intervention on behalf of the opposition in Syria leaves no doubt about whether AQ is profiteering from it or not. They do, for intervention against Assad hurts AQ's enemy it fights against. And what weakens their enemy, makes themselves stronger. It does not get more obvious than this.

[Skybird]

Now this promises to hold potential for becoming - interesting...

Rifts emerge in Iranian leadership.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/w...cle3858973.ece

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by Sammi79

Israeli/US missile test:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/mid...-refugees-live

It's a live stream but check the comment @ 11:28am

[edit] not sure I believe the official line on this, why on earth would you be conducting 'tests' like that without warning anyone?

Reuters has it up as well now although the article is bad, because it still has Israel being unaware of any missile launch

Strange either way though.

A prelude, testing has begun?

[Sammi79]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Reuters has it up as well now although the article is bad, because it still has Israel being unaware of any missile launch

Strange either way though.

A prelude, testing has begun?

As have the US according the Guardian. Let the speculation begin...

Ok I'll start - Israeli/US missile radar avoidance technology tested [against Russian radar detection technology] and found wanting...

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Sammi79

As have the US according the Guardian. Let the speculation begin...

Russians testing anti carrier missiles but failing. Stating that it was not theirs to avoid the embaresment

[Sammi79]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Russians testing anti carrier missiles but failing. Stating that it was not theirs to avoid the embaresment

Israel preparing to false flag the US again...

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'll say it first...this is beginning to look like a big non event and the lunatics have took over the asylum on the world stage.

Should anything tangible happen in the future, near or otherwise, feel free to spank me with a hindsight leaf.

I hope your right.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

You deny the duty of a soldier to refuse follow a traitors orders, illegal orders, criminal orders.

What illegal orders have been given? As far as I know no US service member has been ordered to go fight in Syria for AQ yet so your latest rant against my county is again without form or substance.

And that should be taken serious? You are only about protecting the state-within-the-state-mentality that is inbred in every military apparatus today.

Because I believe a serviceman should not hide behind a mask and make threats to violate his duty? Again what proof do you have that the man wearing the Chiefs uniform is an actual serviceman? Show it to me.

And btw, August, since you questioned it, intervention on behalf of the opposition in Syria leaves no doubt about whether AQ is profiteering from it or not. They do, for intervention against Assad hurts AQ's enemy it fights against. And what weakens their enemy, makes themselves stronger. It does not get more obvious than this.

Skybird:
I don't support intervening in Syria.
I don't support preventing servicemen from speaking their mind.
Verstehen du?

These two examples are both not any different from the Nazis staging a Polish attack on a German border post to create the excuse for attacking Poland. In thwe following years, the Wehrmacht'S olfficer corps for the most refused to revolt against Hitler, claiming the same arguments like you.

Godwins law. You loose.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Sammi79

Israel preparing to false flag the US again...

Another joker...
See... war is fun especially when bored.

Actually it was Israeli missle defence test if it is what the Russians have seen.

[Sammi79]

Originally Posted by MH

Another joker....

Actually it was Israeli missle defence test if it is what the Russians have seen.

possibly...

[MH]

Originally Posted by Sammi79

possibly...

Sure...no problem lol
Have fun.