Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

It's Ukraine and Russia who is fighting the war, rest of Europe is not. USA is only there as host for the negotiations.

Markus

The host is Saudi Arabia. Americ aand Russia wil speak about Ukraine, but not to Ukraine. Ukraine hangs on the drip of America, and if America cuts them off, it sgame over for Ukraione. Europe is not capable to replace the American military supply, it lacks he defense industrial structures.



Ukraine has little to say in all this. If they disagree with the results and Trump loses interest and leaves Europe and Ukraine alone, then there is nothing anybody can do about that. Not Europe. Not Ukraine.



This is about Russia and WashTrumpington. Two boss egos clapping eahc other on their shoulders. Trump always wanted to be part of the Putin-Xi club and has never hid his admiration for them.

[mapuc]

Why are the Russians attacking Chernobyl NPP ?



Markus

[Skybird]

Because panic makes the enemy happy and the world going wild.

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Dargo]

[mapuc]

^ They, the Ukrainians, must keep up the steam in order to maintain their momentum in Pokrovsk Oblast.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

Europeans could potentially send up to 30 thousand troops to Ukraine - WP

European countries could potentially send 25 to 30 thousand troops to Ukraine if there is a ceasefire agreement.

The Washington Post writes about this with reference to informed sources, Censor.NET reports.

It is noted that the number of potential military contingent was disclosed in responses to a letter from the United States, where they asked European countries to detail their capabilities to support Kyiv.

WP sources said that European countries are currently ready to provide several brigades for potential deployment in Ukraine with an estimated number of 25 to 30 thousand.

The interlocutors of the publication point out that the European military "will not be deployed along the contact line, but will be ready to demonstrate force if Russian troops resume the war."

In addition, troops in Ukraine could be supported by more forces outside the country "in case they need to rapidly build up and advance."

WP writes that the most thorough military planning for such a mission has been done by France, which is estimated to have about 10,000 troops.

Two WP sources say that other European powers are still more concerned or facing problems with limited military forces.

The United States has previously publicly allowed for the possibility of deploying peacekeepers to Ukraine to monitor a potential "truce," but has said that U.S. troops would not participate in such a mission.

Earlier it was reported that the United States sent a questionnaire to European countries asking them what contribution they could make to guaranteeing Ukraine's security. The document also asks what European governments would need from Washington to participate in ensuring security measures in Ukraine. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3536316

[mapuc]

I shake my head in despair.

Russia does not dare to attack a NATO-country because we have article 5 in the NATO charter(I think it is called)

So I try to explain to them, my friends, why you can't trust this article 5 by posting part of the article, the most important part that is

"each member state is to assist by taking "such action as [the member state] deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.""

Markus

[Dargo]

Meanwhile in Kursk...

[mapuc]

The Danish government fear that a big war in Europe will come within the next 4-5 years and has therefore given the military extra 50 billion Danish Kroner 25 billion this year and 25 next year in all they have raised the GDP to 3 %.

They are also taking about creating a kind of war tax. Which should be implemented in 2027.

Markus

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Russia and the US.

Europe is staring into an abyss now. At the very bottomg, deep deep below, there lie the many broken monuments of its own security-political failures and omissions.

And you have no one to blame but yourselves by shortchanging your defenses and expecting the U.S. to pick up the slack for the last 30 years.

[mapuc]

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by MaDef

And you have no one to blame but yourselves by shortchanging your defenses and expecting the U.S. to pick up the slack for the last 30 years.

Thats absolutely correct and I say nothing different.