Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2 - Page 41

Jeff-Groves · 08-23-23, 12:54 PM

Probably a French built airplane.

Jimbuna · 08-23-23, 12:58 PM

Brazilian Embraer apparently.

Commander Wallace · 08-23-23, 01:01 PM

I saw this and thought it might be of interest.

New video captures the moment Ukrainian forces destroyed a Russian S-400, a rare loss of a prized and formidable air-defense system

Jake Epstein
Wed, August 23, 2023 at 11:50 AM EDT

A video captures the moment an S-400 explodes in Crimea.Screengrab/Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defence of Ukraine

Ukraine published a video on Wednesday showing the moment it destroyed a Russian S-400.
The S-400 is formidable air-defense system that has drawn comparisons to the US Patriot battery.
Kyiv's military intelligence said in a statement that the attack dealt a "painful blow" to Russia.

Ukraine's military intelligence agency said a Russian S-400 air-defense system on the occupied Crimean peninsula was destroyed on Wednesday, marking a rare loss of one of Moscow's more celebrated and formidable weapons.

A video published by the Ukrainian Main Directorate of Intelligence, an arm of the country's defense ministry that's also known as the HUR, shows the moment that the S-400 erupts into a massive fireball. The footage, which appears to have been captured by a drone, shows a faraway and close-up
view of the explosion.

The HUR wrote in a Telegram post that the explosion occurred around 10 am near Olenivka, a small village at the Crimea's westernmost point along the Black Sea. Kyiv said the attack destroyed the S-400 launcher, its accompanying missiles, and the personnel operating the system.
"Given the limited number of such complexes in the enemy's arsenal, this is a painful blow to the air defense system of the occupiers, which will have a serious impact on further events in the occupied Crimea," the HUR said, according to a translation by Anton Gerashchenko, an advisor in Ukraine's internal affairs ministry.

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Russia's advanced S-400 Triumf is a mobile, surface-to-air system that's capable of shooting down targets at high altitudes and long ranges. Highly praised by Moscow, the formidable S-400 — which is a successor to the older S-200 and S-300 — can engage cruise and ballistic missiles, as well as aircraft and drones, and is considered to be the Russian equivalent to the American Patriot system.

Despite losing an overwhelming amount of military equipment throughout the 18-month-long conflict, Russia has managed to keep its valuable S-400s out of harm's way for the most part. According to open-source intelligence site Oryx, Moscow's military had lost just three S-400 launchers and one command post for the system.

An S-400 Triumf, also known as a SA-21 Growler, during exercises outside Moscow on December 2, 2010.ANDREY SMIRNOV/AFP via Getty Images
It's not immediately clear where the strike that eliminated the latest system came from or what specific weapon was used to do it, but Olenivka is in range of a long-range missile that Ukraine has in its arsenal: the Storm Shadows/SCALP-EGs provided by the British and French which offer an impressive operational range of 155 miles.

Ukraine has asserted repeatedly that it remains unwavering in its goal to eventually liberate Crimea — illegally annexed by Russia in 2014 and still not recognized as Russian territory by Western governments. Kyiv's forces have increasingly stepped up attacks there, including a recent sea drone strike on the key Kerch Bridge, which connects the Crimea with mainland Russia and is a symbol of the Kremlin's hope to occupy the peninsula forever.

Kyrylo Budanov, chief of Ukraine's military intelligence agency, said in a media interview on Tuesday that many individuals living in Crimea are looking forward to its eventual liberation by Ukraine, and he even appeared to hint that a future attack on the peninsula was coming.
"We need to give them confidence that their hopes are not in vain. That's why we have to hold events such as the Crimean Platform, events, let's say, with the resistance movement in the temporarily occupied territories, just destroy the occupiers in our Crimea, which, in principle, you see, and will see in the coming days," Budanov said.

Wednesday's S-400 incident marks the latest demonstration of Ukraine's significant deep-strike capabilities. In recent weeks, Kyiv has managed to threaten Russian positions far beyond the southern and eastern front lines, striking targets around the Black Sea, Crimea, and even on Russia's internationally recognized territory. Drone attacks on Moscow, for example, have become a regular occurrence, although they likely cause more psychological damage than physical harm.
Read the original article on Business Insider

https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-cap...155053545.html

All sorts of good news.

Aktungbby · 08-23-23, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Brazilian Embraer apparently.

...as in the 'B' in BRIC!?? Consider the convenient airplane accident to the Polish head of state and his entourage a while back...this becoming 'modus operendi II'...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smolensk_air_disaster in a Tupolev Tu-154M...as in the 'R' in BRIC with partial blame for 'controller errors' at Smolensk airport??

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Both the Russian and Polish official investigations found no technical faults with the aircraft, and concluded that the crew failed to conduct the approach in a safe manner in the given weather conditions. The Polish authorities found serious deficiencies in the organization and training of the Air Force unit involved, which was subsequently disbanded. Several high-ranking members of the Polish military resigned following pressure from politicians and the media.

Various conspiracy theories have been circulated alleging that the plane had been deliberately brought down by the Russians in an act of political assassination, with these theories also typically alleging that the 2011 investigations constituted a cover-up and that the Polish government of the time — primarily controlled by the Civic Platform party as opposed to Lech Kaczyński's Law and Justice party — was complicit in or aware of the plot or at least aided in the efforts to cover it up.\While neither of the 2011 investigations reported any evidence supporting these claims, with the Polish investigation also examining whether Russian air control failures were a contributory factor in the crash,\ the conspiracy theories are regularly promoted by the Law and Justice party and its supporters in general[4] and by party leader Jarosław Kaczyński, twin brother of Lech Kaczyński, and deputy party leader Antoni Macierewicz in particular,\and were given an official veneer following the 2022 conclusion of a further investigation by the Polish government, which by then was being led by the Law and Justice party.\The new report did not produce any evidence that could conclusively challenge the 2011 reports,\ and was later indicated to have been the subject of tampered evidence.\

Jimbuna · 08-23-23, 01:12 PM

^ I'll await Putins response and probably believe that

mapuc · 08-23-23, 01:18 PM

https://twitter.com/MalcolmNance/sta...13034150670582

Markus

Dargo · 08-23-23, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^ I'll await Putins response and probably believe that

Quote:

Originally Posted by Putin

Time sure does fly, unlike some planes, apparently.

Rockstar · 08-23-23, 01:35 PM

Wagner Airlines safety record took a hit today.

Jimbuna · 08-23-23, 01:38 PM

ET2SN · 08-23-23, 02:59 PM

Now, now. We need the proper decorum in light of this tragic news.

Skybird · 08-23-23, 03:05 PM

Prigozhin was a walking dead, and everybody knew it. Putler knows only one way to deal with traitors. And I even agree, for only this one time. No tear shed by me.

Wagner claims Russian air defence shot the plane down.

mapuc · 08-23-23, 03:27 PM

Does this mean that Wagner group is no more or what ?

Markus

Dargo · 08-23-23, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

Does this mean that Wagner group is no more or what ?

Markus

Looks like the entire leadership of Wagner is gone. Russian state media say Air Transport Agency published list of names on board the crashed Embraer:

Propustin Sergey
Makaryan Evgeniy
Totmin Alexander
Chekalov Valeriy
Utkin Dmitry
Matuseev Nikolay
Prigozhin Evgeniy

The usual end of a Wagner opera: Everybody is dead...

Skybird · 08-23-23, 04:32 PM

If true what were they thinking to all sit in one plane together...?

August · 08-23-23, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dargo

Looks like the entire leadership of Wagner is gone. Russian state media say Air Transport Agency published list of names on board the crashed Embraer:

Propustin Sergey
Makaryan Evgeniy
Totmin Alexander
Chekalov Valeriy
Utkin Dmitry
Matuseev Nikolay
Prigozhin Evgeniy

The usual end of a Wagner opera: Everybody is dead...

First it was supported to be 10 people aboard, the Russians are now claiming that there were only 8 bodies recovered, and your list only has 7.

I wonder if Pregozhin and Ukin were tipped off about the impending "accident" and are now on the lam somewhere.

08-23-23, 12:58 PM	#602
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,701 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Brazilian Embraer apparently. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-23-23, 01:01 PM	#603
Commander Wallace Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Under the sea in an Octupus garden in the shade Posts: 5,315 Downloads: 366 Uploads: 0	I saw this and thought it might be of interest. New video captures the moment Ukrainian forces destroyed a Russian S-400, a rare loss of a prized and formidable air-defense system Jake Epstein Wed, August 23, 2023 at 11:50 AM EDT A video captures the moment an S-400 explodes in Crimea.Screengrab/Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defence of Ukraine Ukraine published a video on Wednesday showing the moment it destroyed a Russian S-400. The S-400 is formidable air-defense system that has drawn comparisons to the US Patriot battery. Kyiv's military intelligence said in a statement that the attack dealt a "painful blow" to Russia. Ukraine's military intelligence agency said a Russian S-400 air-defense system on the occupied Crimean peninsula was destroyed on Wednesday, marking a rare loss of one of Moscow's more celebrated and formidable weapons. A video published by the Ukrainian Main Directorate of Intelligence, an arm of the country's defense ministry that's also known as the HUR, shows the moment that the S-400 erupts into a massive fireball. The footage, which appears to have been captured by a drone, shows a faraway and close-up view of the explosion. The HUR wrote in a Telegram post that the explosion occurred around 10 am near Olenivka, a small village at the Crimea's westernmost point along the Black Sea. Kyiv said the attack destroyed the S-400 launcher, its accompanying missiles, and the personnel operating the system. "Given the limited number of such complexes in the enemy's arsenal, this is a painful blow to the air defense system of the occupiers, which will have a serious impact on further events in the occupied Crimea," the HUR said, according to a translation by Anton Gerashchenko, an advisor in Ukraine's internal affairs ministry. This content is not available due to your privacy preferences. Update your settings here to see it. Russia's advanced S-400 Triumf is a mobile, surface-to-air system that's capable of shooting down targets at high altitudes and long ranges. Highly praised by Moscow, the formidable S-400 — which is a successor to the older S-200 and S-300 — can engage cruise and ballistic missiles, as well as aircraft and drones, and is considered to be the Russian equivalent to the American Patriot system. Despite losing an overwhelming amount of military equipment throughout the 18-month-long conflict, Russia has managed to keep its valuable S-400s out of harm's way for the most part. According to open-source intelligence site Oryx, Moscow's military had lost just three S-400 launchers and one command post for the system. An S-400 Triumf, also known as a SA-21 Growler, during exercises outside Moscow on December 2, 2010.ANDREY SMIRNOV/AFP via Getty Images It's not immediately clear where the strike that eliminated the latest system came from or what specific weapon was used to do it, but Olenivka is in range of a long-range missile that Ukraine has in its arsenal: the Storm Shadows/SCALP-EGs provided by the British and French which offer an impressive operational range of 155 miles. Ukraine has asserted repeatedly that it remains unwavering in its goal to eventually liberate Crimea — illegally annexed by Russia in 2014 and still not recognized as Russian territory by Western governments. Kyiv's forces have increasingly stepped up attacks there, including a recent sea drone strike on the key Kerch Bridge, which connects the Crimea with mainland Russia and is a symbol of the Kremlin's hope to occupy the peninsula forever. Kyrylo Budanov, chief of Ukraine's military intelligence agency, said in a media interview on Tuesday that many individuals living in Crimea are looking forward to its eventual liberation by Ukraine, and he even appeared to hint that a future attack on the peninsula was coming. "We need to give them confidence that their hopes are not in vain. That's why we have to hold events such as the Crimean Platform, events, let's say, with the resistance movement in the temporarily occupied territories, just destroy the occupiers in our Crimea, which, in principle, you see, and will see in the coming days," Budanov said. Wednesday's S-400 incident marks the latest demonstration of Ukraine's significant deep-strike capabilities. In recent weeks, Kyiv has managed to threaten Russian positions far beyond the southern and eastern front lines, striking targets around the Black Sea, Crimea, and even on Russia's internationally recognized territory. Drone attacks on Moscow, for example, have become a regular occurrence, although they likely cause more psychological damage than physical harm. Read the original article on Business Insider https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-cap...155053545.html All sorts of good news.

08-23-23, 01:12 PM	#605
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,701 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ I'll await Putins response and probably believe that __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-23-23, 01:18 PM	#606
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,543 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	https://twitter.com/MalcolmNance/sta...13034150670582 Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

08-23-23, 01:38 PM	#609
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,701 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	__________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-23-23, 12:54 PM	#601
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,654 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Probably a French built airplane.

08-23-23, 01:35 PM	#608
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Wagner Airlines safety record took a hit today.

08-23-23, 02:59 PM	#610
ET2SN Ocean Warrior Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 2,652 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Now, now. We need the proper decorum in light of this tragic news.

08-23-23, 03:05 PM	#611
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,670 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Prigozhin was a walking dead, and everybody knew it. Putler knows only one way to deal with traitors. And I even agree, for only this one time. No tear shed by me. Wagner claims Russian air defence shot the plane down. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-23-23, 03:27 PM	#612
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,543 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Does this mean that Wagner group is no more or what ? Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

08-23-23, 04:32 PM	#614
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,670 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	If true what were they thinking to all sit in one plane together...? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.