UK Politics Thread - Page 404

STEED · 02-28-17, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

I reckon it'll go down, but probably not by enough to be used to oust the Cuckoo.

I just can not see the Cuckoo stepping down even if Labour lost the seat. What is the point of another leadership challenge when old Cuckoo's fan club will re-elect him yet again.

I think jim had a good point Cuckoo's fan club are only interested in ruling the Labour Party and to the four winds about a party in opposition showing its strong and has the guts to take on the government.

STEED · 02-28-17, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

This has been turned into a political subject.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39118566

I'm confident it won't happen but I'd still have his Knighthood taken away from him.

I would gladly strip him of his Knighthood and throw him into the slammer for a good year.

STEED · 02-28-17, 10:16 AM

UKIP in fighting now turns on its only MP.

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UKIP MP Douglas Carswell called in after Nigel Farage says he should be kicked out

http://news.sky.com/story/ukip-mp-do...to-go-10784989

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UKIP: Arron Banks may stand against Douglas Carswell

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39114851

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Ukip's only MP Douglas Carswell hints he could return to the Conservatives

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...conservatives/

Jimbuna · 02-28-17, 10:32 AM

I'm not sure Mr Carswell knows which camp he belongs to and doubt he will survive the next election anyway.

STEED · 02-28-17, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'm not sure Mr Carswell knows which camp he belongs to and doubt he will survive the next election anyway.

2014 By-Election
UKIP - Douglas Carswell 21,113
Conservative - Giles Watling 8,709

2015 General Election
UKIP - Douglas Carswell 19,642
Conservative - Giles Watling 16,205

It looks like the Clacton seat is looking like a possible seat that could fall back to the Tories.

Moonlight · 02-28-17, 11:13 AM

It seems that Jeremy Corbyn is disliked as much by some subsim members as he is by his own Labour MPs, he might not be a very effective enough politician but no other Labour MPs are either, he might lack the statesmanlike gravitas of a world leader but so do the other MPs as well, he might be a useless party leader but I suspect that the rest of them will be just as useless as well.

So tell me gentlemen, which current Labour MP do you think has got the gravitas to turn the party back into general election contenders, some names would be much appreciated, I'm sure I can more than match the scorn and derision that you have applied to the current leader of the Labour Party to the ones that you'll supply.

Not one of those back stabbing self serving bastards have got the balls to drag this party from out of the gutter where it currently is into a viable electable shadow government, so supply some names please so they can be judged on their merits to stand tall as a respected world leader.

Jimbuna · 02-28-17, 11:15 AM

The last one with any real chance IMHO was David Miliband.

STEED · 02-28-17, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

So tell me gentlemen, which current Labour MP do you think has got the gravitas to turn the party back into general election contenders, some names would be much appreciated, I'm sure I can more than match the scorn and derision that you have applied to the current leader of the Labour Party to the ones that you'll supply.

No point as I understand it the leader is voted by the party membership and the Unions and as most of that membership is made up of Cuckoo's fan club no one has a chance in winning other than Cuckoo JC. Only the massive defeat at the general election in 2020 will bring down Cuckoo JC.

But as you wanted a name David Milliband but he stepped down as MP and now works in America when he lost to his nice but weak brother Ed Milliband who lost the 2015 general election.

Jimbuna · 02-28-17, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

But as you wanted a name David Milliband but he stepped down as MP and now works in America when he lost to his nice but weak brother Ed Milliband who lost the 2015 general election.

A lot of that was due to the fact the unions used their block voting powers.

STEED · 02-28-17, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

A lot of that was due to the fact the unions used their block voting powers.

Indeed they the unions probably were thinking they could wrap Ed around their little finger unlike David. How far they got I don't know but clearly Ed was not leadership material.

Oberon · 02-28-17, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

I just can not see the Cuckoo stepping down even if Labour lost the seat. What is the point of another leadership challenge when old Cuckoo's fan club will re-elect him yet again.

I think jim had a good point Cuckoo's fan club are only interested in ruling the Labour Party and to the four winds about a party in opposition showing its strong and has the guts to take on the government.

Depends, a lot of Cuckoos fan club were very anti-Brexit, if Labour were to run an anti-Brexit leader he might get enough votes over Cuckoo to oust him.

Jimbuna · 03-01-17, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Indeed they the unions probably were thinking they could wrap Ed around their little finger unlike David. How far they got I don't know but clearly Ed was not leadership material.

A quick, personal example....At the time I was an assistant secretary of a large trade union organisation and the secretary and I both knew David professionally and socially. We both used our votes in support of David but knew full well that the block vote of our membership was to be cast in favour of Ed.

That's democracy for you.

Jimbuna · 03-01-17, 06:23 AM

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Government facing Brexit defeat in Lords over EU nationals

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39123604

Just think of the financial savings that could be achieved if this shower of leeches was disbanded!!

STEED · 03-01-17, 07:55 AM

OK today's PMQ's scorecard..

May 2 Corbyn 1

I have to give Corbyn one for his remark on government borrowing and the national debt.

Old JC was back on the NHS again thie week with mental health cuts, the government said there were no cuts but listening to a phone in radio station the callers said they were going to be cuts. One caller said he was going to loose £30 in his benefits a week as from such a date as quoted from a letter he rec'd.

I did notice the PM May was batting off Corbyn's attack but not in her usual strong way.

STEED · 03-01-17, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39123604

Just think of the financial savings that could be achieved if this shower of leeches was disbanded!!

That dinosaur house full of farts should be elected and made to work as in most part most of them are sleep, makes you wonder how they do any work...Outsourced?

02-28-17, 10:32 AM	#6049
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02-28-17, 11:13 AM	#6051
Moonlight Admiral Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,156 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	It seems that Jeremy Corbyn is disliked as much by some subsim members as he is by his own Labour MPs, he might not be a very effective enough politician but no other Labour MPs are either, he might lack the statesmanlike gravitas of a world leader but so do the other MPs as well, he might be a useless party leader but I suspect that the rest of them will be just as useless as well. So tell me gentlemen, which current Labour MP do you think has got the gravitas to turn the party back into general election contenders, some names would be much appreciated, I'm sure I can more than match the scorn and derision that you have applied to the current leader of the Labour Party to the ones that you'll supply. Not one of those back stabbing self serving bastards have got the balls to drag this party from out of the gutter where it currently is into a viable electable shadow government, so supply some names please so they can be judged on their merits to stand tall as a respected world leader. __________________

02-28-17, 11:15 AM	#6052
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,457 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The last one with any real chance IMHO was David Miliband. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

03-01-17, 07:55 AM	#6059
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	OK today's PMQ's scorecard.. May 2 Corbyn 1 I have to give Corbyn one for his remark on government borrowing and the national debt. Old JC was back on the NHS again thie week with mental health cuts, the government said there were no cuts but listening to a phone in radio station the callers said they were going to be cuts. One caller said he was going to loose £30 in his benefits a week as from such a date as quoted from a letter he rec'd. I did notice the PM May was batting off Corbyn's attack but not in her usual strong way. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!