Will the DRM affect your Purchase? - Page 40

Bilge_Rat · 03-23-10, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

House rules like not insulting people? That would be a good start. And exactly how many of the gameplay threads have been invaded? And how many of the anti-DRM threads have you joined just to attack those people?

I stand 100% behind my opinion.

Why don't you actually play a game instead of hanging out in a forum of a game you don't own. It might do you some good.

Fincuan · 03-23-10, 09:28 AM

If this thread is so much of a nuisance to some folks why do you even read it, let alone post in it? It's not like the thread title isn't an indication of what the thread contains. Also nowhere have I seen a rule about having to own the game to be allowed to post in SH5 forums. To some it seems to be a huge crime to hang out on the forums of a game you're interested in but which you don't own yet.

The General · 03-23-10, 09:34 AM

To any of you wo have not yet purchased your copy of SH5, I say this:

Here's a new policy: Having actually played SH5 since release, I can categorically say that the DRM is a non-issue. To complain about Digital Rights Management is to complain that you're not allowed to make copies of Films/Movies and just hand 'em out to your friends and family at Christmas. DRM is a form of Copyrighting, copyrighting has been around for a long time and isn't going anywhere soon. I suggest all you so-called Subsim fans, swallow your pride and give SH5 a try. It is absolutely incredible (with Mods)! The most immersive Subsim there has ever been, and with the forthcoming Patch, should be incredible witout the Mods. SH3 was very, very good (with Mods), SH5 is in another league. Sorry to be so blunt, but when you've played it for a while, you'll see what I mean.

One last thing, I want all of you who haven't got your copy of SH5 yet to wait until after Patch 1.2 has come out. Then, when you've played it a while and realised what a pheomenal achievement in programming it is, I want you all to write letters of apology to Ubisoft and The Devs for any disparaging remarks you may have made in the past. May God have mercy on your souls!!

quietguy52 · 03-23-10, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The General

To any of you wo have not yet purchased your copy of SH5, I say this:

Here's a new policy: Having actually played SH5 since release, I can categorically say that the DRM is a non-issue. To complain about Digital Rights Management is to complain that you're not allowed to make copies of Films/Movies and just hand 'em out to your friends and family at Christmas. DRM is a form of Copyrighting, copyrighting has been around for a long time and isn't going anywhere soon. I suggest all you so-called Subsim fans, swallow your pride and give SH5 a try. It is absolutely incredible (with Mods)! The most immersive Subsim there has ever been, and with the forthcoming Patch, should be incredible witout the Mods. SH3 was very, very good (with Mods), SH5 is in another league. Sorry to be so blunt, but when you've played it for a while, you'll see what I mean.

One last thing, I want all of you who haven't got your copy of SH5 yet to wait until after Patch 1.2 has come out. Then, when you've played it a while and realised what a pheomenal achievement in programming it is, I want you all to write letters of apology to Ubisoft and The Devs for any disparaging remarks you may have made in the past. May God have mercy on your souls!!

You're sitting in a plane at 32,000 feet enroute from Texas to Hawaii.. we're talking about ten hours worth of travel, and you would like to play the subsim on your laptop. ALAS!! No web access (wifi).. Sorry Charlie, no can play.

Which is why I'll stay with SHIV...

They (UBI) wanna protect their stuff... do it using another protocol or method.

Just MHO...

Kapitanleutnant · 03-23-10, 09:42 AM

The General is a ****ing terrible poster, just stick him on your ignore list and hope against hope that he gets hit by a bus.

The General · 03-23-10, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quietguy52

You're sitting in a plane at 32,000 feet enroute from Texas to Hawaii.. we're talking about ten hours worth of travel, and you would like to play the subsim on your laptop. ALAS!! No web access (wifi).. Sorry Charlie, no can play.

Which is why I'll stay with SHIV...

They (UBI) wanna protect their stuff... do it using another protocol or method.

Just MHO...

Yeah, think of those thousands of poor Subsim fans, sitting in First-class on the way to Hawaii, not able to fire up their $5000 Laptops, capable of running SH5 as smooth as their trophy wife's bottom?

You make a helluva case, are you a Lawyer?

RSColonel_131st · 03-23-10, 09:57 AM

Wow, "The General" just made the first entry on my ignore list.

Jimbuna · 03-23-10, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I stand 100% behind my opinion.

Why don't you actually play a game instead of hanging out in a forum of a game you don't own. It might do you some good.

Nothing wrong with having an opinion, after all that is what freedom of speech and forum debate is all about.

Keeping a cool head during the debate should be of monumental importance and adhered to as much as possible.

SINK EM ALL!!

Sailor Steve · 03-23-10, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I stand 100% behind my opinion.

Why don't you actually play a game instead of hanging out in a forum of a game you don't own. It might do you some good.

You still haven't answered my original post. You accuse people of having faulty logic, and then claim you were attacked for saying you liked the game. You need to show exactly where this happened, or retract that "2x4" statement.

As for hanging out in a forum of a game I don't own, I stay here because I want to own it. I don't because UBI won't allow me to play it even if I spend the money.

The General · 03-23-10, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st

Wow, "The General" just made the first entry on my ignore list.

Sheesh, it was only a joke!

I'm on so many people's Ignore List, I think I'm talkin' to myself half the time

Bilge_Rat · 03-23-10, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

You still haven't answered my original post. You accuse people of having faulty logic, and then claim you were attacked for saying you liked the game. You need to show exactly where this happened, or retract that "2x4" statement.

get over it SS, this debate is over, let's move on.

Sailor Steve · 03-23-10, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

get over it SS, this debate is over, let's move on.

It was not a debate, it was an insult. It will stand forever. I'll leave it, and you, with that, if that's you "opinion".

Cavell · 03-23-10, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The General

Yeah, think of those thousands of poor Subsim fans, sitting in First-class on the way to Hawaii, not able to fire up their $5000 Laptops, capable of running SH5 as smooth as their trophy wife's bottom?

You make a helluva case, are you a Lawyer?

Alright, let's see what you can do with this one:

Deploying to Afghanistan.

Bring the funny on that one, por favor.

Barnes · 03-23-10, 11:33 AM

Below is the message, and response I got from ubisoft reference DRM:

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center. Below is a summary of your request and our response.

If this issue is not resolved to your satisfaction, you may reopen it
within the next 21 days.

Thank you for allowing us to be of service to you.

If your issue remains unresolved, you can update your question from
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Discussion Thread
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Response (Jason) - 03/22/2010 05:29 PM
Matthew,

We appreciate you voicing your concerns about our new Online Services Platform that will be offered in Silent Hunter 5. We feel strongly that the platform will offer benefits to the player, in form of services such as unlimited installs and that these services justify the permanent online requirement. We truly feel that the vast majority of gamers will have a smooth and easy experience with this platform.

Auto-Response - 03/21/2010 09:19 PM
Title: Error: An Internet Connection is Required to Play This Game
Link: http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1267804719

Title: Minimum Requirements for Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic
Link: http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1267034582

Title: What is the Ubisoft Game Launcher?
Link: http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1267567547

Title: Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic - Digital Manual
Link: http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1267034985

Title: Gameplay Questions?
Link: http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1267566033

Customer (Matthew xxxxx) - 03/21/2010 09:19 PM
As you can tell by my user name, and amount of games I have registered that I am a long standing supporter of Ubisoft products. Previously I have purchased Silent Hunter 2, 3, 4, as well as every Clancy title out there. As a member of the US Army, I continually deploy overseas. You may not believe it, but my Ubisoft games come with me to play in my limited down time.

You can imagine my dismay when I learned that I needed a constant internet connection in order to play Silent Hunter 5 because it uses DRM. Where the hell am I supposed to get a constant internet connection out in some remote outpost in Afghanistan?!?!?! As long as Ubisoft is using this type of technology to run there games, I can no longer support your company and the games you release. As a long standing loyal customer, I feel as if you have slapped every military service person in the face with this DRM nonsense.

Thanks for nothing!!

Matt

Cavell · 03-23-10, 11:45 AM

Hey, they've clearly got a point. You might not be able to actually play the game...but you can install it as many times as you want! Now THAT is value.

It's not like I can install all my other games as many times as I want or anything.

View Poll Results: Will the new DRM affect your SH5 purchase
"Makes no difference to me"	191	15.44%
I'll cancel my pre-order & wait	148	11.96%
Wait for UBI to remove the online DRM	761	61.52%
Not going to at all now.	137	11.08%
Voters: 1237. You may not vote on this poll

03-23-10, 09:34 AM	#588
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	So-called Subsim fans To any of you wo have not yet purchased your copy of SH5, I say this: Here's a new policy: Having actually played SH5 since release, I can categorically say that the DRM is a non-issue. To complain about Digital Rights Management is to complain that you're not allowed to make copies of Films/Movies and just hand 'em out to your friends and family at Christmas. DRM is a form of Copyrighting, copyrighting has been around for a long time and isn't going anywhere soon. I suggest all you so-called Subsim fans, swallow your pride and give SH5 a try. It is absolutely incredible (with Mods)! The most immersive Subsim there has ever been, and with the forthcoming Patch, should be incredible witout the Mods. SH3 was very, very good (with Mods), SH5 is in another league. Sorry to be so blunt, but when you've played it for a while, you'll see what I mean. One last thing, I want all of you who haven't got your copy of SH5 yet to wait until after Patch 1.2 has come out. Then, when you've played it a while and realised what a pheomenal achievement in programming it is, I want you all to write letters of apology to Ubisoft and The Devs for any disparaging remarks you may have made in the past. May God have mercy on your souls!! __________________ *THE GENERAL*

03-23-10, 09:42 AM	#590
Kapitanleutnant Frogman Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 305 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	The General is a ****ing terrible poster, just stick him on your ignore list and hope against hope that he gets hit by a bus. __________________ Oh worse than Hitler! You wouldn't find Hitler playing jungle music at three o'clock in the morning!

03-23-10, 09:28 AM	#587
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	If this thread is so much of a nuisance to some folks why do you even read it, let alone post in it? It's not like the thread title isn't an indication of what the thread contains. Also nowhere have I seen a rule about having to own the game to be allowed to post in SH5 forums. To some it seems to be a huge crime to hang out on the forums of a game you're interested in but which you don't own yet.

03-23-10, 09:57 AM	#592
RSColonel_131st Medic Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 164 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Wow, "The General" just made the first entry on my ignore list.

03-23-10, 11:33 AM	#599
Barnes Bilge Rat Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fort Lauderdale, USA Posts: 1 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Below is the message, and response I got from ubisoft reference DRM: Recently you requested personal assistance from our online support center. Below is a summary of your request and our response. If this issue is not resolved to your satisfaction, you may reopen it within the next 21 days. Thank you for allowing us to be of service to you. If your issue remains unresolved, you can update your question from our support site. Click the following link or paste it into your web browser. http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1269220778 Subject --------------------------------------------------------------- As you can tell by my user name, and amount of games I have registered that I... Discussion Thread --------------------------------------------------------------- Response (Jason) - 03/22/2010 05:29 PM Matthew, We appreciate you voicing your concerns about our new Online Services Platform that will be offered in Silent Hunter 5. We feel strongly that the platform will offer benefits to the player, in form of services such as unlimited installs and that these services justify the permanent online requirement. We truly feel that the vast majority of gamers will have a smooth and easy experience with this platform. Auto-Response - 03/21/2010 09:19 PM Title: Error: An Internet Connection is Required to Play This Game Link: http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1267804719 Title: Minimum Requirements for Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic Link: http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1267034582 Title: What is the Ubisoft Game Launcher? Link: http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1267567547 Title: Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic - Digital Manual Link: http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1267034985 Title: Gameplay Questions? Link: http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1267566033 Customer (Matthew xxxxx) - 03/21/2010 09:19 PM As you can tell by my user name, and amount of games I have registered that I am a long standing supporter of Ubisoft products. Previously I have purchased Silent Hunter 2, 3, 4, as well as every Clancy title out there. As a member of the US Army, I continually deploy overseas. You may not believe it, but my Ubisoft games come with me to play in my limited down time. You can imagine my dismay when I learned that I needed a constant internet connection in order to play Silent Hunter 5 because it uses DRM. Where the hell am I supposed to get a constant internet connection out in some remote outpost in Afghanistan?!?!?! As long as Ubisoft is using this type of technology to run there games, I can no longer support your company and the games you release. As a long standing loyal customer, I feel as if you have slapped every military service person in the face with this DRM nonsense. Thanks for nothing!! Matt

03-23-10, 11:45 AM	#600
Cavell Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 43 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Hey, they've clearly got a point. You might not be able to actually play the game...but you can install it as many times as you want! Now THAT is value. It's not like I can install all my other games as many times as I want or anything.