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View Poll Results: Who will be the next President of the United States?
Joe Biden 1 1.30%
Hillary Clinton 25 32.47%
John Edwards 3 3.90%
Rudy Giuliani 6 7.79%
Mike Huckabee 7 9.09%
John McCain 5 6.49%
Barack Obama 13 16.88%
Ron Paul 5 6.49%
Bill Richardson 1 1.30%
Mitt Romney 3 3.90%
Fred Thompson 8 10.39%
Pat Buchanan 0 0%
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Old 02-16-08, 12:20 PM   #586
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter

Ms Coulter - Possibly not apples to apples.
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Old 02-16-08, 01:15 PM   #587
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Ok, a year from now, we will know (unless Florida has a problem reading their ballots). My question, who do you think will be the next President of the United States?
Closer and closer to Florida being the deciding factor again ...

Do you realize those Flordia delegates that voted for Hillary Clinton have been nulified by an earlier unauthorized primary?

I don't know how many there were, but this is history in the making ...

P.S. This just came in hot off the associated press: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...1fD3QD8URLU1O0

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Harold Ickes, a top adviser to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign who voted for Democratic Party rules that stripped Michigan and Florida of their delegates, now is arguing against the very penalty he helped pass.
In a conference call Saturday, the longtime Democratic Party member contended the DNC should reconsider its tough sanctions on the two states, which held early contests in violation of party rules. He said millions of voters in Michigan and Florida would be otherwise disenfranchised — before acknowledging moments later that he had favored the sanctions.
Ickes explained that his different position essentially is due to the different hats he wears as both a DNC member and a Clinton adviser in charge of delegate counting. Clinton won the primary vote in Michigan and Florida, and now she wants those votes to count.
The delegate vote count comes to: "delegate count stood at 1,280 for Obama and 1,218 for Clinton. If the DNC were to award Michigan and Florida's 313 delegates based on the vote in their primaries, she would be ahead because she won both states".
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Old 02-16-08, 05:09 PM   #588
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Just ran across this unusal ocourance. Strange indeed ...

http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=76&sid=27720
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Obama Campaign Theatrics

--Producer Phil writes
A Wall Street Journal writer, James Taranto , has uncovered a hilarious and puzzling coincidence at 5 different Sen. Obama campaign speeches over the last few months, including the recent speech in Seattle.
Dori and listeners have found one other Sen. Obama incident posted on YouTube where a person near the stage faints.
Sen. Obama responds to each incident with the same routine and phrases.
Is it phoney, orchestrated, manufactured campaign theatrics or is it merely physiological coincidence?
You be the judge.
They have a half dozen video's on the link above ...

Here's the video I found first:
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/48404.html









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Skybird, maybe being a foreigner you don't realize that you're quoting the lefts version of Ann Coulter?
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Glad somebody pointed it out!
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Old 02-17-08, 06:50 AM   #590
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Skybird, maybe being a foreigner you don't realize that you're quoting the lefts version of Ann Coulter?
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Glad somebody pointed it out!
Whatever your animosity towards Ms Huffington is like - it is no argument pro or against the text's content. Only question is if it is true or not. According to American press releases, it is true.

Or as somebody commented over there:

That eloquent maverick, McCain,
Once deplored the infliction of pain.
But a swat on the tush
From the family Bush
Knocked his principles right down the drain.


For people that still get upset about Bill Clinton trying to hide his sexual preferences - completely his private business - , and shouting "Liar! Down with Clinton!", the frank display of double standards when it now comes to McCain and something uncomparably more serious is - stunning...

Strange priorities that are.
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Why is this up coming court case not been factored into Hillary's chances in Texas and Ohio? I also don't see it mentioned on news broadcasts - maybe just missing them.

"The Hillary Clinton Accountability Project will shortly launch its fundraising drive to raise $500,000 to support the most important citizen’s legal initiative of 2008. The landmark civil fraud suit of Paul v Clinton et al which the California Supreme Court ordered to proceed against the Clintons, Grammys Producer Gary Smith and Clinton agent Jim Levin, will be set for trial and a discovery schedule at a special conference to be held in Los Angeles Superior Court on February 21, 2008.
The first law suit in American history to bring a President and a Senator to court for defrauding the Senator’s largest campaign donor and his public company will be set for trial and discovery at the Case Management Conference before Judge Munoz. Discovery and depositions of key witnesses, including the Clinton family, Al Gore, Ed Rendell, Terry McAuliffe, Harold Ickes, Howard Wolfson, Kelly Craighead, Barbara Streisand, Brad Pitt, Larry King, Mike Wallace among an array of political and entertainment leaders, will present an inside look at a culture of corruption that will shock the public.
The history and significance of this lawsuit is featured in the internet phenomenon - documentary Hillary! Uncensored and in the court filings posted on the Hillary Clinton Accountability Project web site."
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
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Skybird, maybe being a foreigner you don't realize that you're quoting the lefts version of Ann Coulter?
:rotfl:

Glad somebody pointed it out!
Whatever your animosity towards Ms Huffington is like - it is no argument pro or against the text's content. Only question is if it is true or not. According to American press releases, it is true.

Or as somebody commented over there:

That eloquent maverick, McCain,
Once deplored the infliction of pain.
But a swat on the tush
From the family Bush
Knocked his principles right down the drain.

For people that still get upset about Bill Clinton trying to hide his sexual preferences - completely his private business - , and shouting "Liar! Down with Clinton!", the frank display of double standards when it now comes to McCain and something uncomparably more serious is - stunning...

Strange priorities that are.
Skybird, it does matter, since AH is an extreme partisan.

Read McCain's floor statement, it is on her attached article. Some site name Muckraker.

She has severely misconstured it. Did you read it? I certainly don't think that it says what what she TWISTS it into saying.

Also, someone like AH, that grandmaster of all political flip-floppers, lecturing me on McCain not being a 'straight-talker' is really cute.

"This necessarily brings us to the question of waterboarding. Administration officials have stated in recent days that this technique is no longer in use, but they have declined to say that it is illegal under current law. I believe that it is clearly illegal and that we should publicly recognize this fact.
In assessing the legality of waterboarding, the Administration has chosen to apply a “shocks the conscience” analysis to its interpretation of the DTA. I stated during the passage of that law that a fair reading of the prohibition on cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment outlaws waterboarding and other extreme techniques. It is, or should be, beyond dispute that waterboarding “shocks the conscience.”
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I reject to follow your view. The version you give is not the news story I have read from CNN and NYT, and according precoverage of the WH meeting and McCains previous demands on torture. the man said one thing - and did exactly the other thing, now trying to make that plausible. As far as german media covered the events since decembre, they understood them the same way.anyway, I just wanted to scratch his polishing a bit. He is neither the superman nor the always-the-truth-speaking uber-leader. He is a usual politician, and has an according opportunistic short-time memory only, like almost all politicians. that is what one needs to be aware of. Personally, I do not like or trust any of the three (Huckabee is dreaming, imo) remaining candidates, and McCain is like Clinton and Obama driven by the same motivations and ambitions like other usual politicians.
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle3386292.ece

Then thank God Europeans can't vote here. We wouldn't need an elction, we have Obama. Across the pond he seems to be a wonderful mix of Jesus, JFK, and whatever the mushy multicultralism that passes for sensitive today.

As for 'rejecting my view' I guess I couldn't care less. Huffington mischaracterized McCain's floor statement. I read it. He didn't say what she said he was. Maybe something is lost in translation, but if your sources are relying on CNN and the NYT for American news, then they are getting about half the story.

I think to lump McCain with Clinton is slightly odd, and wrong. Whatever you think about his politics.

I'm trying to picture Clinton like this:



or this:



Or This:



When, in fact, Bill was looking like this:



Now I was born way past this point, but these people are my parents generation, and what they were doing in these few years defined them then, and defines them now.

Just for giggles:

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Old 02-19-08, 03:21 AM   #596
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I'm trying to picture Clinton like this:



or this:



Or This:



When, in fact, Bill was looking like this:



Now I was born way past this point, but these people are my parents generation, and what they were doing in these few years defined them then, and defines them now.

Just for giggles:

None of the three candidates wear glasses these days, or a beard. That's why it is impossible to vote for any of them.
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LOL.

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Dang!... lol...women...and Skybird...what a pair...
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The obligatory BHO is JCH post.

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.c...jIzZjEyN2ZjZjk=
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Ralph Nader...Again?

Looks like "Meet The Press" is going to be an interesting show Sunday.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
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