Should cannibis be considered legal.

kiwi_2005 · 07-11-06, 06:04 PM

As far back as the Egyptians in the Pharoah days or earlier they were all using this drug. Cannibis is classed as a Class C drug which is not considered high poriety compared to Heroin, Cocaine, P, etc. Why is cannibis still looked at in most countries as an illegal drug - Alcohol is far worse. I would rather be put in a room full of cannibis smokers than a room full of drunks - guess which room would have the fights. In the 1940's they use to have cannibis here in NZ as a medicine for Glacoma and Arthritis, my grandmother use to get a doctors perscription go down to the pharmist and get her monthly dose of cannibis for her arthritis. She would then go home and add it to her cooking. Every photo of my grandma the picture shows her with a smile a mile wide, i now know why. She was stoned! :rotfl:
African fishermen take cannibis for nightfishing it makes them see better in the dark

? Scientist have even discovered that cannibis reverses the effect of lung cancer for those that are tobbacco smokers. Infact tobbacco is far worse than cannibis health wise, yet thats legal.
Isn't amsterdam the capital of dopecity in the world? Whats the crime rate over there i bet its low. Alcohol in our country is the cause of alot of wasted lifes - car accidents while under the influence of alcohol, violent attacks on strangers because of drunkeness, broken relationships, dependency, it is by far worse than cannibis yet is legal here & in most parts of the world.

I realise this subject on drugs might be sensitive to some. no offense intended.

Ducimus · 07-11-06, 06:45 PM

"Yeah man, they should like, leaglize Mary Ja wanna man. I mean like.. that way, i could go down to the liquior store and pick up a few roach's like a bottle of JD. I mean that way, id probably spend less money, cuz you know.. the dude on the corner, he like charges up the ass cuz he might get bust'ed in ****, you know? So like, if the legalized mary ja wanna i could get my buzz for cheaper. So like... yah thats medical right! I need my medicine esse!"

VipertheSniper · 07-11-06, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

"Yeah man, they should like, leaglize Mary Ja wanna man. I mean like.. that way, i could go down to the liquior store and pick up a few roach's like a bottle of JD. I mean that way, id probably spend less money, cuz you know.. the dude on the corner, he like charges up the ass cuz he might get bust'ed in ****, you know? So like, if the legalized mary ja wanna i could get my buzz for cheaper. So like... yah thats medical right! I need my medicine esse!"

Cheech & Chong... really need to get their movies, Cheech Marin is a brilliant comedian.

kiwi_2005 · 07-11-06, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

"Yeah man, they should like, leaglize Mary Ja wanna man. I mean like.. that way, i could go down to the liquior store and pick up a few roach's like a bottle of JD. I mean that way, id probably spend less money, cuz you know.. the dude on the corner, he like charges up the ass cuz he might get bust'ed in ****, you know? So like, if the legalized mary ja wanna i could get my buzz for cheaper. So like... yah thats medical right! I need my medicine esse!"

"Cheech and Chong" use to love listening to there tapes, the one "Daves not home man" or "Jimmy" are a crack up. There movies were silly but good for a laugh. What happen to these guys you never here from them now.

VipertheSniper · 07-11-06, 08:05 PM

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"Cheech and Chong" use to love listening to there tapes, the one "Daves not home man" or "Jimmy" are a crack up. There movies were silly but good for a laugh. What happen to these guys you never here from them now.

Cheech Marin played in From Dusk till Dawn and Nash Bridges, look him up at imdb.

mog · 07-11-06, 08:32 PM

Might as well legalise it so it can be regulated and taxed, since it is so prevalent anyway. When I was under 18 and at high school it was easier and cheaper to buy marijuana than alcohol.

Torpedo Fodder · 07-11-06, 08:58 PM

I don't see why not; Just regulate and tax it like alcohol and tobbaco. If those are legal, I don't see why cannabis shouldn't be. Hard drugs like cocaine and heroin should stay illegal though.

07-12-06, 12:59 PM

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"Cheech and Chong" use to love listening to there tapes, the one "Daves not home man" or "Jimmy" are a crack up. There movies were silly but good for a laugh. What happen to these guys you never here from them now.

Cheech Marin played in From Dusk till Dawn and Nash Bridges, look him up at imdb.

He was also in Desperado and Once Upon A Time In Mexico and a bunch of other movies and TV shows:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001507/

Tommy Chong? Not quite as much, but still working steadily:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001045/

Oh, and my vote on MJ. As a white, conservative (well, sort of) Christian (well, sort of), I say a resounding YES! I have yet to see any harm greater than that from alcohol, and America is supposed to be about freedom.

Etienne · 07-11-06, 06:50 PM

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I would rather be put in a room full of cannibis smokers than a room full of drunks - guess which room would have the fights..

You don't know the same stoners I know. They get violent.

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Scientist have even discovered that cannibis reverses the effect of lung cancer for those that are tobbacco smokers. Infact tobbacco is far worse than cannibis health wise, yet thats legal.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4350642.stm

Studies range from claiming that cannabis is far, far worse than tobacco, to saying that it's harmless. So the jury is still out.

Cannabis' usefuleness in fighting glaucoma and other eye disease is currently being questionned, as well.

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Isn't amsterdam the capital of dopecity in the world? Whats the crime rate over there i bet its low. .

That's not a very strong argument

Beside, you'd have to adjust the statistics to take into account the non-criminality of certain acts pertaining to drugs.

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Alcohol in our country is the cause of alot of wasted lifes - car accidents while under the influence of alcohol, violent attacks on strangers because of drunkeness, broken relationships, dependency, it is by far worse than cannibis yet is legal here & in most parts of the world.

The consumption of cannabis can also cause all of these problems. And don't come out saying cannabis isn't addictive. It might not be as bad as coke or heroin, but it's addictive none the less.

kiwi_2005 · 07-11-06, 06:56 PM

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I would rather be put in a room full of cannibis smokers than a room full of drunks - guess which room would have the fights..

You don't know the same stoners I know. They get violent.

Cannibis smokers "only" meaning they only smoke cannibis they don't mix there smoking with "other" drugs or alcohol, are not violent. Those that do can be. I bet the ones you know mix cannibis with other substances thats why they're violent.

Etienne · 07-11-06, 07:12 PM

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I would rather be put in a room full of cannibis smokers than a room full of drunks - guess which room would have the fights..

You don't know the same stoners I know. They get violent.

Cannibis smokers "only" meaning they only smoke cannibis they don't mix there smoking with "other" drugs or alcohol, are not violent. Those that do can be. I bet the ones you know mix cannibis with other substances thats why they're violent.

Nope. Just pot. Well, with some tobacco, and I guess there might have been rolling paper or bong water involved.

It doesn't happen all the time, and usually not during the high. It's afterward that you have to be careful around some stoners. Especially long time users.

Skybird · 07-11-06, 07:25 PM

Don't mix it! Use it pure, and without any thinner! I must say I would be dissapointed when not becoming violent after having had a pound of Cannabis, or two!

August · 07-12-06, 12:06 AM

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Nope. Just pot. Well, with some tobacco, and I guess there might have been rolling paper or bong water involved.

It doesn't happen all the time, and usually not during the high. It's afterward that you have to be careful around some stoners. Especially long time users.

Some violent people smoke pot. That does not mean that pot is what makes them violent. You said it yourself, after they come down is when you have to be careful.

So one has to ask, does pot make them violent or would they be even more violent without it? Seems to me it's the latter.

Ishmael · 07-12-06, 12:49 AM

The only danger of marijuana is...getting busted.

LoBlo · 07-12-06, 07:03 PM

The truth is that cannibis is probably just another psychoactive substance used for by people for a mood effect just as some use alcohol or even caffeine. The problem is that whenever a psychoactive substance is released to a society, there will be some that will use is responsibly (just like alcohol) and some that will abuse it, even becoming emotionally dependent on it (instead of relying on inherent coping mechanisms).

Putting it out there to use will garantee that a portion of the populaiton will have problems controlling their use. They will go to work stoned, operate heavy machinery while under the influence (not a good idea), decide that they want to go on a drive while high as a kite, or go for a stroll in a public area acting inappropriately because they are stoned. Just like alcohol actually...

So a society will have to weigh the monetary cost savings of not having to worry about the resources needed to ban it, versus the monetary and societal cost of having to deal with those persons that will abuse it. My personal opinion is keep it illegal.

07-11-06, 06:04 PM	#1
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Should cannibis be considered legal. As far back as the Egyptians in the Pharoah days or earlier they were all using this drug. Cannibis is classed as a Class C drug which is not considered high poriety compared to Heroin, Cocaine, P, etc. Why is cannibis still looked at in most countries as an illegal drug - Alcohol is far worse. I would rather be put in a room full of cannibis smokers than a room full of drunks - guess which room would have the fights. In the 1940's they use to have cannibis here in NZ as a medicine for Glacoma and Arthritis, my grandmother use to get a doctors perscription go down to the pharmist and get her monthly dose of cannibis for her arthritis. She would then go home and add it to her cooking. Every photo of my grandma the picture shows her with a smile a mile wide, i now know why. She was stoned! :rotfl: African fishermen take cannibis for nightfishing it makes them see better in the dark ? Scientist have even discovered that cannibis reverses the effect of lung cancer for those that are tobbacco smokers. Infact tobbacco is far worse than cannibis health wise, yet thats legal. Isn't amsterdam the capital of dopecity in the world? Whats the crime rate over there i bet its low. Alcohol in our country is the cause of alot of wasted lifes - car accidents while under the influence of alcohol, violent attacks on strangers because of drunkeness, broken relationships, dependency, it is by far worse than cannibis yet is legal here & in most parts of the world. I realise this subject on drugs might be sensitive to some. no offense intended. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others. Last edited by kiwi_2005; 07-11-06 at 08:01 PM.

07-11-06, 08:58 PM	#7
Torpedo Fodder Ensign Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Whitby, Ontario Posts: 234 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't see why not; Just regulate and tax it like alcohol and tobbaco. If those are legal, I don't see why cannabis shouldn't be. Hard drugs like cocaine and heroin should stay illegal though. __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum - If you want peace, prepare for war. "Those who turn their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't"

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,645 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Don't mix it! Use it pure, and without any thinner! I must say I would be dissapointed when not becoming violent after having had a pound of Cannabis, or two! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-12-06, 07:03 PM	#15
LoBlo Subsim Diehard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas! Posts: 971 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 3	The truth is that cannibis is probably just another psychoactive substance used for by people for a mood effect just as some use alcohol or even caffeine. The problem is that whenever a psychoactive substance is released to a society, there will be some that will use is responsibly (just like alcohol) and some that will abuse it, even becoming emotionally dependent on it (instead of relying on inherent coping mechanisms). Putting it out there to use will garantee that a portion of the populaiton will have problems controlling their use. They will go to work stoned, operate heavy machinery while under the influence (not a good idea), decide that they want to go on a drive while high as a kite, or go for a stroll in a public area acting inappropriately because they are stoned. Just like alcohol actually... So a society will have to weigh the monetary cost savings of not having to worry about the resources needed to ban it, versus the monetary and societal cost of having to deal with those persons that will abuse it. My personal opinion is keep it illegal. __________________ "Seek not to offend or annoy... only to speak the truth"-a wise man Last edited by LoBlo; 07-13-06 at 01:13 PM.

07-11-06, 06:45 PM	#2
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	"Yeah man, they should like, leaglize Mary Ja wanna man. I mean like.. that way, i could go down to the liquior store and pick up a few roach's like a bottle of JD. I mean that way, id probably spend less money, cuz you know.. the dude on the corner, he like charges up the ass cuz he might get bust'ed in ****, you know? So like, if the legalized mary ja wanna i could get my buzz for cheaper. So like... yah thats medical right! I need my medicine esse!"

07-11-06, 08:32 PM	#6
mog Medic Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 163 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Might as well legalise it so it can be regulated and taxed, since it is so prevalent anyway. When I was under 18 and at high school it was easier and cheaper to buy marijuana than alcohol.

07-12-06, 12:49 AM	#14
Ishmael Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morro Bay, Ca. Posts: 659 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	The only danger of marijuana is...getting busted.