LuftWolf and Amizaur's Realism Mod Poll #7: FFG Helo Dipper - Page 4

LuftWolf · 03-10-06, 12:38 PM

In a word yes, all ASW aircraft and helos are 1000% more lethal (that is, they work the way they are supposed to... mostly).

It's really all for TLAM's benefit... reading his AAR's for RSR made me think he needed a challenge.

It's probably going to fall to the mission designers to tweak some of their scenarios they may have juiced up in terms of the ASW fleet operations if they prove to be too difficult with the AI behavior properly enabled... they are a smart bunch, and have been overcoming the limitations of the simulator using mission design for some time now. I hope to take some of the burden off of them, so they can design missions to be more "realistic" in terms of setup, and still get challenging behavior from the AI for the player to fight against.

LuftWolf · 03-10-06, 12:44 PM

Keep in mind, the new changes will also help players out quite a bit if the ASW assets are on their side.

If you link an unidentified track now, friendly ASW aircraft and helos, especially those with dipping capability, will take the track and move in for identification and then handle the prosecution on their own if the track is hostile.

So it works both ways. AI aircraft and helos are now great allies, and formidable opponents.

Barleyman · 03-10-06, 02:28 PM

Thank you sir! May I have an another?! :|\

LuftWolf · 03-10-06, 02:56 PM

Well, if it makes you feel any better, the full performance of the AI is not what it could be in terms of aggressiveness for reasons other than the core doctrine level scripting. My suspicion is that the link doesn't quite function properly for the AI (it is already known that the link often does not work properly for humans to humans).

The improvements are mainly 1) To add proper dipping and mad sensors and behavior to the MH60 when under player FFG control 2) to allow the human player to utilize the link to get friendly assets to work in coordination.

The full AI performance will unforunately not be sorted out until the link behavior and cross platform communication is solved.

In the mean time, I recommend always linking MANUAL contacts, since the AI and other players will always get them uncorrupted.

Barleyman · 03-11-06, 08:00 AM

Hmm. So how about getting sensor info from torpedoes since we're going the realism route? At least for single-player..

Dr.Sid · 03-11-06, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Barleyman

Hmm. So how about getting sensor info from torpedoes since we're going the realism route? At least for single-player..

Isn't this part of LW mod since 2.0 ?

Barleyman · 03-11-06, 08:35 AM

AFAIK, no. It was dropped because it made things "too easy"

Kazuaki Shimazaki II · 03-11-06, 12:37 PM

It doesn't work that well anyway. False contacts up the wazoo, wireless report-backs ...

I'm surprised the UAVs work at all after I tried this, since the flag used for UAV feedback and torpedo feedback are the same flag.

LuftWolf · 03-11-06, 04:03 PM

Thomas and I both tried to add it (him to SCX) and we both removed it.

View Poll Results: Should I add a "dipping sonar" to the FFG AI helo?
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03-10-06, 12:38 PM	#1
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	In a word yes, all ASW aircraft and helos are 1000% more lethal (that is, they work the way they are supposed to... mostly). It's really all for TLAM's benefit... reading his AAR's for RSR made me think he needed a challenge. It's probably going to fall to the mission designers to tweak some of their scenarios they may have juiced up in terms of the ASW fleet operations if they prove to be too difficult with the AI behavior properly enabled... they are a smart bunch, and have been overcoming the limitations of the simulator using mission design for some time now. I hope to take some of the burden off of them, so they can design missions to be more "realistic" in terms of setup, and still get challenging behavior from the AI for the player to fight against. __________________ LW

03-10-06, 12:44 PM	#2
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Keep in mind, the new changes will also help players out quite a bit if the ASW assets are on their side. If you link an unidentified track now, friendly ASW aircraft and helos, especially those with dipping capability, will take the track and move in for identification and then handle the prosecution on their own if the track is hostile. So it works both ways. AI aircraft and helos are now great allies, and formidable opponents. __________________ LW

03-10-06, 02:56 PM	#4
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Well, if it makes you feel any better, the full performance of the AI is not what it could be in terms of aggressiveness for reasons other than the core doctrine level scripting. My suspicion is that the link doesn't quite function properly for the AI (it is already known that the link often does not work properly for humans to humans). The improvements are mainly 1) To add proper dipping and mad sensors and behavior to the MH60 when under player FFG control 2) to allow the human player to utilize the link to get friendly assets to work in coordination. The full AI performance will unforunately not be sorted out until the link behavior and cross platform communication is solved. In the mean time, I recommend always linking MANUAL contacts, since the AI and other players will always get them uncorrupted. __________________ LW

03-11-06, 04:03 PM	#9
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Thomas and I both tried to add it (him to SCX) and we both removed it. __________________ LW

03-10-06, 02:28 PM	#3
Barleyman Gunner Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 99 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Thank you sir! May I have an another?! :\|\

03-11-06, 08:00 AM	#5
Barleyman Gunner Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 99 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Hmm. So how about getting sensor info from torpedoes since we're going the realism route? At least for single-player..

03-11-06, 08:35 AM	#7
Barleyman Gunner Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 99 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	AFAIK, no. It was dropped because it made things "too easy"

03-11-06, 12:37 PM	#8
Kazuaki Shimazaki II Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	It doesn't work that well anyway. False contacts up the wazoo, wireless report-backs ... I'm surprised the UAVs work at all after I tried this, since the flag used for UAV feedback and torpedo feedback are the same flag.