Excited/ dissapointed it will be PTO? - Page 4

Onkel Neal · 02-02-06, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Yes, everyone has an opinion. Mine is that a return to the Pacific is long overdue. Besides, maybe the Atlantic could be taken care of in a patch or expansion once the primary game is completed.

Agreed. And I'm pretty burned out on playing Germans and getting my butt kicked, I wanna play on the winning side for a change

Marhkimov · 02-02-06, 05:36 AM

And I wanna be an american again... It's been a while since I was an american in WWII...

IL2FBA (russian, german)
SH3 (german)

well, aside from Pacific Fighters...

simtim · 02-02-06, 06:07 PM

Here here!

Don't get me wrong, I have fun playing as a German U-Boat commander, but there is nothing like allying yourself with the good ol' US Navy! <salute> <grin>

This is probably a worn-out topic by now, but I have longed to command a US sub in WW2 again, since it is very difficult to advance the cause of the Nazis.... (Hope I am not opening a can of worms here.) Then again, it is only a game and so I did not take my victories and many defeats too seriously.

- Tim

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Originally Posted by Marhkimov

And I wanna be an american again... It's been a while since I was an american in WWII...

IL2FBA (russian, german)
SH3 (german)

well, aside from Pacific Fighters...

Dogsbd · 02-03-06, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Marhkimov

well, aside from Pacific Fighters...

PF is so incomplete that it doesn't really count.

Ark · 02-05-06, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

There are always people who do and people who don't. I personally really want a new Pacific sub sim, and while I understand the ones who don't I would really appreciate it if you would try to understand my feelings as well.

Where would we be now if half of us had said "We don't want another U-boat game!" two years ago?

^^^^

Agreed.

supersloth · 02-05-06, 09:10 PM

how bout an all encompassing game including both atlantic and pacific theaters. but i will agree that i am more into the atlantic side of the war; just something cool about the cold frigid waters of the atlantic.

ps. they should also add detroyers/merchants that will linger around to pick up survivors. and really HUGE convoys, and i mean 80-100 ships. then imagine about 20-25 subs all descending on them

one can dream though.

dize · 02-07-06, 09:18 AM

well.... im deffo looking forward to another sh game, and being in the pto will of course have its own flavor. no doubt.
my "problem" with seing sh4 developed now, is why oh why they just couldnt do that sh3 finishing add on. i mean, there must be be some left over content on ther hdÂ´s. its so obvious imho, that it even hurts.
they must have some sort of uboat+bdu beta ai somewhere hidden, if not, they would have to develope that anyway for sh4, so whats the deal of implementing that into an addon for sh3? plus i find the limited amount of different merchant shipping avail in sh3 a bit "uninspiring".
all the things that are labeling sh3 as unfinsihed, is needed for a good s4.

02-07-06, 01:09 PM

I agree. While I want to run a U.S. boat again, I really love SHIII, and I hope that anything that is upgraded or fixed for SHIV will be retrofitted to SHIII. I would gladly pay for an SHIII Expansion Pack that includes everything repaired including a proper wolf pack and milk cow function.

FERdeBOER · 02-07-06, 05:33 PM

A question... is not possible a game where you can choose side and/or theatre?

The are many games that allow you that.

Also, is not possible to implement as well the posibility of choosing a destroyer?

Harry Buttle · 02-15-06, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FERdeBOER

A question... is not possible a game where you can choose side and/or theatre?

The are many games that allow you that.

Also, is not possible to implement as well the posibility of choosing a destroyer?

Basically you have asked Ubisoft to develop 4 games and sell them for the price of one.

USN subsim

Jap subsim

USN destroyer sim

Jap destroyer sim

all have very different requirements and would be a virtual 'from scratch' effort.

it can be done, but would cost about 3x as much as doing just one game (allowing for some common work between the 4 games).

Redwine · 02-15-06, 10:39 AM

I am not disapointed at all, really i want it will be a german sub sim, because we have a lot of losse things in SH3, as Thermal Layers, Wolf packs, Milk Cows, diferent DDs and DEs behaviour, and many more, not my intemption to star-up a discision about it here.

Really i want a COMPLETE WW2 German Subsim, and a COMPLETE pacific USA/Japan Subsim, and...... i want a good WW1 Subsim too !
WW1 subsim must to have a so diferent way to do the war.... a missed point in sub simulation.

Wulfmann · 02-15-06, 01:18 PM

I doubt any reasonable person would suggest the PTO offers a better gaming opportunity.
That said one then must ask if a â€œimprovedâ€ version of SH3 is what SH4 is, then doing the Atlantic would offer little financial success or at least perceived by the suits.
Please note that the Germans lost far more than 52 U-Boats in the so called â€œHappyâ€
time so the fact is they will have to increase the difficulty a bit beyond reality or it will be without a proper challenge.
So, we will get a PTO game. Like it or not. I like it. Not because Ich bin Amerikaner but it will be a new set of circumstances to explore and I am confident the mod community will not only improve it but cross over some of the updates to SH3.
That said, I believe a good PTO would be enhanced if it included a bonus patch to update SH3 Atlantic.
That is where the good marketing money lays, a reason to buy a new game and reward the loyalty of their paying customers.
I hope they get a clue about language as the English is terrible in SH3 and even though I use the German language that too is not as good as it could be.
We all know such little matter can be improved upon.
I am still of the belief a WWI update add-on would be popular. Using the same game with 2 new sub models and ship models etc and one would have a whole new version of what is a very good game already.
Wulfmann

Jonesy · 02-17-06, 08:09 AM

Hello people, first time poster, long time lurker around here.

I was a big fan of the first silent hunter so a return to the PTO could really be a good thing with the new graphics capabilities, I know that the Japanese didnÂ´t master the art of ASW as well as the british did in the Atlantic but I remember dying enough times in SH1, So that shouldnÂ´t be a problem. (of course i was just a small kid then...not much pacience)

the most important thing about SH4 is that it must not...come with starforce again

, starforce completelly destroyed what was otherwise a great experience with SH3 for me, loved the game but ended up uninstalling it because Starforce kept screwing up my system.

gilbertf · 02-17-06, 04:50 PM

I hope Silent Hunter4 will be Pacific based.

Silent Hunter 3 is pretty good and is right now based on german uboats. It's been two games based on the uboats since the first silent hunter and time has come to go back to the pacific.

We need some fresh air. New submarines and a new context of war will be refreshing after having played SH2 and SH3.

I like SH3. But I dont want to play SH4 even if improved in the same area with the same kind of boats.

And the first SH was Pacific based so what's the problem huh ?

The first submarine game I ever played was Gato from the DOS.
Then I played a game where you would play uboats with a graphical interface, still launched from the DOS. I dont recall its name.

I also played Silent Service and i loved it

I am very impatient, 10 years over, to come back to the Pacific area with the today modern improved graphics !

Sea Demon · 02-20-06, 12:33 AM

I'll just say I'd love to play in the Pacific theater. Already seen the Atlantic twice.

02-02-06, 05:36 AM	#2
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	And I wanna be an american again... It's been a while since I was an american in WWII... IL2FBA (russian, german) SH3 (german) well, aside from Pacific Fighters... __________________ It takes two to tango

02-07-06, 05:33 PM	#9
FERdeBOER XO Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 431 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 1	A question... is not possible a game where you can choose side and/or theatre? The are many games that allow you that. Also, is not possible to implement as well the posibility of choosing a destroyer? __________________ Hay dos tipos de buques: los submarinos... y los blancos. There are two types of ships: the subs... and the targets.

02-15-06, 10:39 AM	#11
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I am not disapointed at all, really i want it will be a german sub sim, because we have a lot of losse things in SH3, as Thermal Layers, Wolf packs, Milk Cows, diferent DDs and DEs behaviour, and many more, not my intemption to star-up a discision about it here. Really i want a COMPLETE WW2 German Subsim, and a COMPLETE pacific USA/Japan Subsim, and...... i want a good WW1 Subsim too ! WW1 subsim must to have a so diferent way to do the war.... a missed point in sub simulation. __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection"

02-15-06, 01:18 PM	#12
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I doubt any reasonable person would suggest the PTO offers a better gaming opportunity. That said one then must ask if a â€œimprovedâ€ version of SH3 is what SH4 is, then doing the Atlantic would offer little financial success or at least perceived by the suits. Please note that the Germans lost far more than 52 U-Boats in the so called â€œHappyâ€ time so the fact is they will have to increase the difficulty a bit beyond reality or it will be without a proper challenge. So, we will get a PTO game. Like it or not. I like it. Not because Ich bin Amerikaner but it will be a new set of circumstances to explore and I am confident the mod community will not only improve it but cross over some of the updates to SH3. That said, I believe a good PTO would be enhanced if it included a bonus patch to update SH3 Atlantic. That is where the good marketing money lays, a reason to buy a new game and reward the loyalty of their paying customers. I hope they get a clue about language as the English is terrible in SH3 and even though I use the German language that too is not as good as it could be. We all know such little matter can be improved upon. I am still of the belief a WWI update add-on would be popular. Using the same game with 2 new sub models and ship models etc and one would have a whole new version of what is a very good game already. Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

02-17-06, 08:09 AM	#13
Jonesy Mate Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 51 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Hello people, first time poster, long time lurker around here. I was a big fan of the first silent hunter so a return to the PTO could really be a good thing with the new graphics capabilities, I know that the Japanese didnÂ´t master the art of ASW as well as the british did in the Atlantic but I remember dying enough times in SH1, So that shouldnÂ´t be a problem. (of course i was just a small kid then...not much pacience) the most important thing about SH4 is that it must not...come with starforce again , starforce completelly destroyed what was otherwise a great experience with SH3 for me, loved the game but ended up uninstalling it because Starforce kept screwing up my system. __________________ Including one way the hell out at Pearl!!

02-05-06, 09:10 PM	#6
supersloth Seaman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: CA, USA Posts: 41 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	how bout an all encompassing game including both atlantic and pacific theaters. but i will agree that i am more into the atlantic side of the war; just something cool about the cold frigid waters of the atlantic. ps. they should also add detroyers/merchants that will linger around to pick up survivors. and really HUGE convoys, and i mean 80-100 ships. then imagine about 20-25 subs all descending on them one can dream though.

02-07-06, 09:18 AM	#7
dize Machinist's Mate Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: hamburg Posts: 122 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	well.... im deffo looking forward to another sh game, and being in the pto will of course have its own flavor. no doubt. my "problem" with seing sh4 developed now, is why oh why they just couldnt do that sh3 finishing add on. i mean, there must be be some left over content on ther hdÂ´s. its so obvious imho, that it even hurts. they must have some sort of uboat+bdu beta ai somewhere hidden, if not, they would have to develope that anyway for sh4, so whats the deal of implementing that into an addon for sh3? plus i find the limited amount of different merchant shipping avail in sh3 a bit "uninspiring". all the things that are labeling sh3 as unfinsihed, is needed for a good s4.

02-07-06, 01:09 PM	#8
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I agree. While I want to run a U.S. boat again, I really love SHIII, and I hope that anything that is upgraded or fixed for SHIV will be retrofitted to SHIII. I would gladly pay for an SHIII Expansion Pack that includes everything repaired including a proper wolf pack and milk cow function.

02-17-06, 04:50 PM	#14
gilbertf Watch Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Paris, France Posts: 19 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I hope Silent Hunter4 will be Pacific based. Silent Hunter 3 is pretty good and is right now based on german uboats. It's been two games based on the uboats since the first silent hunter and time has come to go back to the pacific. We need some fresh air. New submarines and a new context of war will be refreshing after having played SH2 and SH3. I like SH3. But I dont want to play SH4 even if improved in the same area with the same kind of boats. And the first SH was Pacific based so what's the problem huh ? The first submarine game I ever played was Gato from the DOS. Then I played a game where you would play uboats with a graphical interface, still launched from the DOS. I dont recall its name. I also played Silent Service and i loved it I am very impatient, 10 years over, to come back to the Pacific area with the today modern improved graphics !

02-20-06, 12:33 AM	#15
Sea Demon Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,552 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	I'll just say I'd love to play in the Pacific theater. Already seen the Atlantic twice.