Hms Ceramic v1.00 up for DL - Page 4

chris911 · 12-21-05, 06:51 AM

Hi with damage modell u are somehow right , the compartments are really not changed as we didn t find out how to do it atm , which damage modell do u use for ur S-class sub btw. Maybe that helps to get thr dam zones right.Reflections also dosnt work right for this modell as when i change sth. there is a bug with the UV mapping which totaly disoriantares them. Have u solved this for ur Models ?

To the dev thing , i heard sth. that this is not possibke atm cause they are busy doing other jobs.

Stary Wuj · 12-21-05, 07:25 AM

Krupp wrote:

" Umm... dumb question then about these "extra" ships: Do I need to do anything else than just install this with mod enabler and it's ready to go (or sink when spotted)?.."

Same question here :-)

Great ship, really :-)

Stary Wuj

Dowly · 12-21-05, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Stary Wuj

Krupp wrote:

" Umm... dumb question then about these "extra" ships: Do I need to do anything else than just install this with mod enabler and it's ready to go (or sink when spotted)?.."

Same question here :-)

Great ship, really :-)

Stary Wuj

I think they have to be put in the campaing from mission editor. Not sure tho, as I`ve never done anything like it. Maybe someone with better knowledge will tell you.

CWorth · 12-21-05, 08:20 AM

Not sure but if this is anything like sergbutos extra merchants mod that added 2 more ships to the game...they appeared randomly without having to edit anything in the game...just simply installing the files into SH3 was enough.

sergbuto · 12-21-05, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chris911

Hi with damage modell u are somehow right , the compartments are really not changed as we didn t find out how to do it atm , which damage modell do u use for ur S-class sub btw. Maybe that helps to get thr dam zones right.

For S-class I used the Type VII sub which has the same length of the hull. For other parts, I tried to align damage zones by aligning the S-class parts with those of Type VII before replacing them via importing.

However, this method will not properly work if the imported ship is bigger or arbitrarily scaled compared to the parent ship. In this case one needs to edit the damage zone sizes and maybe there positions in the corresponding ZON file. As far as understand, those zones are sets of spheres and rectangular boxes which are groupped by the 3D object.

F.e. in case of HMS Ceramic, one will be basically torpedoing the NAXC or British Aux. cruiser with props and rudder moved further behind but not the 200m ship.

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Originally Posted by chris911

Reflections also dosnt work right for this modell as when i change sth. there is a bug with the UV mapping which totaly disoriantares them. Have u solved this for ur Models ?

UV mapping should not change during extraction/importing with Pack3D. You probably mean the use/assignment of the wrong texture plate. There is no such problem for external new models since I need to use new texture plates anyway.

Schultzy · 12-21-05, 08:42 AM

Looks amazing!!

Great work, thanks a lot!!

Stary Wuj · 12-21-05, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CWorth

Not sure but if this is anything like sergbutos extra merchants mod that added 2 more ships to the game...they appeared randomly without having to edit anything in the game...just simply installing the files into SH3 was enough.

Good news, but.............someone can confirm ?

:hmm:

AG124 · 12-21-05, 11:38 AM

Type 102 (Cargo) vessels should appear in the stock campaign without editing. However, I don't think there are any random entries for type 103 (Passenger) vessels. And convoys have scripted ship types.

AG124 · 12-21-05, 11:44 AM

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Have you tried to ask the Devs to correct the damage model? If they can't help maybe the person like timetraveller can write an utility to plot and correct zones from ZON files.

I have three ships which are being fixed by the Dev team right now. However it is taking a long time (And understandably so. I'm not complaining) and I have not heard from Der Teddy Bar lately (he's handling the matter). I was hoping to release a merchant pack soon, but there are some core changes which just cannot be made by modders right now.

And yes, a tool for rezoning (and retexturing

) would be very uselful at the moment.

chris911 · 12-21-05, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Stary Wuj wrote:
Krupp wrote:

" Umm... dumb question then about these "extra" ships: Do I need to do anything else than just install this with mod enabler and it's ready to go (or sink when spotted)?.."

Same question here :-)

Great ship, really :-)

Stary Wuj

it is ready to sink when u enable it with the mod installer but it is not yet scripted into the *.SCR or *.RND layer of course.
For the *.RND layer there are entries like 1xRandom British which should sometimes in theory generate the ship as it is with the hospitalship or other merchants tested by me but i think the possibilty for a 103 type ship is much lower then for a small coastal merchant .

For the *.SCR layer , that will come with one of the next of the HT Releases . Than u will definatly See her in some Ports maybe leaving or entering or just staying there( What ever Rubini Thinks that looks Right he will surely skript into the *.SCR layer).

chris911 · 12-21-05, 02:01 PM

A rezoning tool would be very nice. but as the NAXC is not so much smaller the Damage does work with the ship of course it is not perfect but the funnel is where the Machines and the Bunkers are the Probs where moved and the Keel is that of a 170 meter ship but
anyways if u hit the ship midship with two or three trops it normaly sinks and if u need 4 or even more thats good when uthink about it such aship would in reality of course need more than one impact trop. and the mag trop one hit kill seems to be no prob as such ships shouldn t resist a mag hit unter the keel anyways , simply cause they where not reinforced like heavy cruisers of about the same size.

Hunterbear · 12-21-05, 09:13 PM

Nice looking ship chris911

Keep up the great work!

AG124 · 12-21-05, 11:27 PM

The Ceramic has been added to my roster. I am also unconcerned if the damage model is not perfect - she'll do just fine for me.

I need to sink something new.

Will you have a couple of more ready soon? I won't be releasing any of mine yet, but I hope to do so as soon as possible.

Krupp · 12-22-05, 04:35 AM

Thanks for the answer chris911

Kpt. Lehmann · 12-30-05, 04:40 PM

Nice work Chris!

12-21-05, 06:51 AM	#1
chris911 Chief Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 312 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi with damage modell u are somehow right , the compartments are really not changed as we didn t find out how to do it atm , which damage modell do u use for ur S-class sub btw. Maybe that helps to get thr dam zones right.Reflections also dosnt work right for this modell as when i change sth. there is a bug with the UV mapping which totaly disoriantares them. Have u solved this for ur Models ? To the dev thing , i heard sth. that this is not possibke atm cause they are busy doing other jobs. __________________ HMS Ceramic ready for DL. : http://rapidshare.de/files/9536028/HMS_Ceramic.zip.html All Downloadable Ship Modells For SHIII

12-21-05, 02:01 PM	#11
chris911 Chief Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 312 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A rezoning tool would be very nice. but as the NAXC is not so much smaller the Damage does work with the ship of course it is not perfect but the funnel is where the Machines and the Bunkers are the Probs where moved and the Keel is that of a 170 meter ship but anyways if u hit the ship midship with two or three trops it normaly sinks and if u need 4 or even more thats good when uthink about it such aship would in reality of course need more than one impact trop. and the mag trop one hit kill seems to be no prob as such ships shouldn t resist a mag hit unter the keel anyways , simply cause they where not reinforced like heavy cruisers of about the same size. __________________ HMS Ceramic ready for DL. : http://rapidshare.de/files/9536028/HMS_Ceramic.zip.html All Downloadable Ship Modells For SHIII

12-22-05, 04:35 AM	#14
Krupp Weps Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 351 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the answer chris911 __________________ "Gentlemen, we have no choice. Total engagement. Die with dignity."

12-30-05, 04:40 PM	#15
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,994 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Nice work Chris! __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

12-21-05, 07:25 AM	#2
Stary Wuj Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Poland, Zabrze Posts: 268 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Krupp wrote: " Umm... dumb question then about these "extra" ships: Do I need to do anything else than just install this with mod enabler and it's ready to go (or sink when spotted)?.." Same question here :-) Great ship, really :-) Stary Wuj

12-21-05, 08:20 AM	#4
CWorth Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gettysburg PA Posts: 845 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Not sure but if this is anything like sergbutos extra merchants mod that added 2 more ships to the game...they appeared randomly without having to edit anything in the game...just simply installing the files into SH3 was enough.

12-21-05, 08:42 AM	#6
Schultzy Commander Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Großbritannien Posts: 452 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Looks amazing!! Great work, thanks a lot!!

12-21-05, 11:38 AM	#8
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Type 102 (Cargo) vessels should appear in the stock campaign without editing. However, I don't think there are any random entries for type 103 (Passenger) vessels. And convoys have scripted ship types.

12-21-05, 09:13 PM	#12
Hunterbear A-ganger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: California, USA Posts: 72 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Nice looking ship chris911 Keep up the great work!

12-21-05, 11:27 PM	#13
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	The Ceramic has been added to my roster. I am also unconcerned if the damage model is not perfect - she'll do just fine for me. I need to sink something new. Will you have a couple of more ready soon? I won't be releasing any of mine yet, but I hope to do so as soon as possible.