The Time to Bomb Iran is NOW!!

[Kapitan]

who said anything about calling for war ?

i didnt i said i could pssobly come up with a plan for a fictitious war !

anyways id gladly pick up a rifle and use it for my country

[Jace11]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Jace how old are you?

Or more relevent, what's your SAT score?

Never did one, however I know my IQ roughly, I'll tell you if you tell me your bmi..

[Kapitan]

hmmm is this a slagging match ?

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Some days old, but still worth a thought:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GI13Ak01.html

Sorry for messing up your TMA on me, Torpedo Fodder

Makes me wonder,in what world my grandchildren will live?

[retired1212]

Can US afford another war again? It costs you know


There should be a solid reason fabricated to attack on Iran. Just like in cases of Iraq (Weapons of Mass Destruction, then :

1=1
Q = Q
IraQ = AlQeeda )

and Vietnam (Gulf of Tonkin Incident). :P

Actually Jace11 is talking about some mission in flightsim. Those evil iranians

[Jace11]

Its perfectly possible to derail a nations nuclear program with a single air strike. Israeli's showed that.


BTW..

Has anyone detected a tinge of irony in this thread...?

[Abraham]

In my opinion the discussion on this thread has become extremely fast and extremely shallow...
A pity.

[Type941]

Originally Posted by Abraham

In my opinion the discussion on this thread has become extremely fast and extremely shallow...
A pity.

That's impossible, it began extremely shallow already.

[Abraham]

Originally Posted by Type941

That's impossible, it began extremely shallow already.

At the end of page one some sensible things were said by some, including - amougst others - Torpedo Fodder, Jace11, you and me.
At the beginning of page two you were getting pessimistic - rightly.

Tryiong to prevent Iran getting a nuke is one thing, regime change is something els.
Perhaps, as a very last resort - but certainly not now - a surgical military strike on nuclear production facilities might be included in the options. It would be really sasd if it had to come that far...
But attacking the country in order to change a certainly disgusting regime would be a blunder of colossal dimensions. The Iranian people need to free themselves from their own wicked regime. At most with a little help from their friends...
As little help as necessairy.

[Hitman]

Torpedo Fodder wrote:

China would ruin their economy as well by doing that, especially since they must know the Americans wouldn't hesitate to retaliate for such a move. I think they'd be slightly more interested in preserving their own economy than getting back at the Americans by ruining theirs, even if doing nothing maeant paying more for oil and relying more on Russia for it. They'd probably throw lots of hissy fits and brag about their resolve, but I seriously doubt they'd actually do anything.

Without cheap oil, they can't keep their echonomy running, so they face the same situation anyway. China's attitude in a commercial war is easy: We all will loose, but you will loose more because I have less to loose.

The last time the US cornered an asiatic empire through commercial restrictions and cutting his oil supply, the result was Pearl Harbor

[Kapitan]

and whos to say china wont do another pearl harbour ?

[Perseus]

Has it ever occurred to you, Jace, that the Iranians may be trying to procure nuclear weapons to prevent an American attack?

They look to North Korea and see that the leadership of that country can do absolutely whatever it pleases, including terrorist raids on the South Korean mainland, the mass production of chemical weapons (talk about WMD, eh?), the starving of its own people and heck, even government-sponsored drugs trafficking. (Ask the Australians about that last one.)
And then there are apparently detailed American satellite photos showing laughing scientists and soldiers loading parts of nuclear warheads from and into trucks. In plain sight, nothing to hide.
Why? Because the North Koreans know that those who have nuclear weapons (or do not have oil), need not be afraid of an American attack.

Pfah, Bush's "crusade against WMD", don't make me laugh, china. While Bush was getting into gear to persuade the world to join him in his crusade, Kim Jong-il was selling and shipping upgraded Scuds and what not to whoever asked for them. Like your regular Boom Boom Wal-Mart. Pakistan, Iran, Chad, you name it, they ordered 'em and got 'em for everyone to see.
But did your prez do anything against that country? No, because that country actually has WMD, first only chemical ones and now nukes, too. Oh, and a massive army hidden in nearly indestructible caves, with Seoul only 5 minutes flying away from the nearest Frog missile battery with chemical warheads.

You are afraid of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists, Jace? Well, many Iranians are afraid of US terrorists attacking Iran in their supersonic aircraft.
To you, Iranians represent danger and evil.
To Iranians, Americans represent danger and evil.
Ask yourself: How would you react if you visited a forum where some Iranian, in all his arrogance, said that the US should be bombed because it is a dangerous country?

You'd go completely APE, gung-ho, Rambo!

Well, imagine then how an Iranian (believe it or not, they're humans too) comes onto this board and reads what you wrote in your first post.
I, for one, would call my president and ask him to "please hurry up with those nukes cuz here's another of those terrorist Yanks threatening to bomb us!"

And just for the sake of the argument, imagine what would happen if Bush decided to follow your advice and bombed Iran tomorrow. Do you know what would happen?
First, all Shi'ite terrorists and fundamentalists who are now fighting Sunni terrorists and fundamentalists would turn around, and unite with their present ideological foes. I'm talking all of Iran, huge chunks of Pakistan and all of southern Iraq (not to mention the Shi'ite minority in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States) and turn against you. The entire Middle East would erupt in flames. With about 150,000 US troops caught in the middle of it all.

Second, and as someone already mentioned here, I hope Bush will first provide the population of Israel with gas masks and protection against chemical and biological weapons. Israel is to Iran what Seoul is to North Korea; a hostage. Of course, your president will fail to provide the Iranian civilian population with the necessary fall-out bunkers, because it will rain Israeli nukes on Iran by then.

Third, and this is the only egoist argument I'll put in here: if you think your dad is already paying a huge amount of money at the gas pump, imagine what will happen to the crude oil price once the Middle East sinks into total chaos.

Thus the answer is quite simple. Bomb Iran and we're in World War III.

[Type941]

Read another periodical the other day. The gist of it was that the only reason US attacked IRAQ was because it DID NOT have weapons of mass destruction and they knew it (it said calling US naive about it would be stupid as US is anything but naive or incompetent). Thus, it is not going to attack IRAN because of the fear of retaliation - same with North Korea really. I can see the logic behind that thinking..


PS> I originally asked the author of the thread or moderators to edit the title as technically it's illegal as it aims to incite violence. but again it's gone unnoticed. Apparently noone gives a sh8t if an Iranian (and there are many of them outside of Iran) might read this.

[August]

Originally Posted by Type941

Read another periodical the other day. The gist of it was that the only reason US attacked IRAQ was because it DID NOT have weapons of mass destruction and they knew it (it said calling US naive about it would be stupid as US is anything but naive or incompetent). Thus, it is not going to attack IRAN because of the fear of retaliation - same with North Korea really. I can see the logic behind that thinking..

Except Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons or WMD, which sorta blows that theory.

BTW i agree with you about the orange part

[Type941]

I think the fact that they are clearly close to making it and some believe they already have something. IT's up in the air, but the reason US backed down or isnt' waving the stick at them - well, I wonder why, perhaps the intelligence on that part is working? Or perhaps China told to the US not to use any force, which was backed by Russia and India. Which in term means that Iraq may be not armed, but in fact has the support in case of a full conflict. Hence the fact that US only attacked because they knew for certain that Iraq didn't have WMDs stands....