French election thread - Page 4

Catfish · 05-08-17, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

[...] ...was seriously surprised and almost shocked to learn of Le Pens parties alleged connections and support with the Vichy government.

Huh? She just said that "Vichy was not France", and that "France had no hand in deporting or killing jews", both statements are wrong of course

edit: ah i see, archives to be opened, allegedly National Front party connection to Vichy govenment. Was not aware, sorry.

Jimbuna · 05-08-17, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Huh? She just said that "Vichy was not France", and that "France had no hand in deporting or killing jews", both statements are wrong of course

edit: ah i see, archives to be opened, allegedly National Front party connection to Vichy govenment. Was not aware, sorry.

No problem matey, that is why I was careful to insert the word 'alleged'.

Skybird · 05-08-17, 06:16 AM

Second highest number of non-voters since fifty years. And two parties that want revenge - and have the parliamentary elections ahead to score in. Macron, not being member of any of the two, will find his presidency anything but simple. And it is possible that it ends in a stunning stalemate with consequences beyond the French borders. The bureaucratic and administrative apparatus can bring his ambitions to a grinding halt, he has no backhalt in it.

Luckily I recently have discovered the art to make fresh popcorn at home.

STEED · 05-08-17, 06:19 AM

A new party a young President seems risky and yet the voters clearly had enough of the old guard. Be interesting too see the general election outcome next month.

Bilge_Rat · 05-08-17, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

No real surprise in the outcome I suppose but I was seriously surprised and almost shocked to learn of Le Pens parties alleged connections and support with the Vichy government.

Some of the founders of the Party were Nazi collaborators during WW2, some held similar views to the Nazis, which is why some still refer to the FN as a neo-Nazi party.

However, like all parties, the FN has been moving more towards the center as its electoral success rises, so although it is a populist, conservative, nationalist Party, I am not sure to what extent the "Neo-Nazi" tag is still accurate.

Bubblehead1980 · 05-08-17, 08:24 PM

Trying to wrap my head around the election results. France is under siege due to islamic terrorism. Instead of electing someone prepared to actually confront the barbarians who live within, they elect a globalist, pro EU,sympathizer who played the EU anthem instead of the French one?

ikalugin · 05-09-17, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Trying to wrap my head around the election results. France is under siege due to islamic terrorism. Instead of electing someone prepared to actually confront the barbarians who live within, they elect a globalist, pro EU,sympathizer who played the EU anthem instead of the French one?

That and the fact that strongly pro labour France elected a corporatist banker. I can already see the labour laws in France melting and people rioting in the streets.

Bilge_Rat · 05-09-17, 09:17 AM

Presidents back to Chirac have been trying to reform the labour laws. I doubt Macron will be more successful.

First, he has to get a working majority in Parliament or he will become a lame duck very quickly.

em2nought · 05-09-17, 10:26 AM

Sophia · 05-15-17, 08:55 AM

My opinion is that a strong majority of people disliked/dislike MlP because of what her political party is based on, aka surfing on irrational fears and social problems severely over-represented in the media. I estimate the people in that case to about 60%-65% of the population (my very rough estimation).

05-08-17, 06:16 AM	#48
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,605 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Second highest number of non-voters since fifty years. And two parties that want revenge - and have the parliamentary elections ahead to score in. Macron, not being member of any of the two, will find his presidency anything but simple. And it is possible that it ends in a stunning stalemate with consequences beyond the French borders. The bureaucratic and administrative apparatus can bring his ambitions to a grinding halt, he has no backhalt in it. Luckily I recently have discovered the art to make fresh popcorn at home. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	A new party a young President seems risky and yet the voters clearly had enough of the old guard. Be interesting too see the general election outcome next month. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	Presidents back to Chirac have been trying to reform the labour laws. I doubt Macron will be more successful. First, he has to get a working majority in Parliament or he will become a lame duck very quickly. __________________

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05-08-17, 08:24 PM	#51
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,100 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Trying to wrap my head around the election results. France is under siege due to islamic terrorism. Instead of electing someone prepared to actually confront the barbarians who live within, they elect a globalist, pro EU,sympathizer who played the EU anthem instead of the French one?

05-15-17, 08:55 AM	#55
Sophia Watch Join Date: May 2017 Location: i am in both Washington DC and London. Back and forth. Posts: 19 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My opinion is that a strong majority of people disliked/dislike MlP because of what her political party is based on, aka surfing on irrational fears and social problems severely over-represented in the media. I estimate the people in that case to about 60%-65% of the population (my very rough estimation).